F Series vs. X Series

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by **JasonH** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:05 am

These pictures will highlight the differences between the F and X Series.

The changes are mostly software, however there are a few hardware changes.

All software updates will be available to F Series owners with the 3.0 Update and will basically turn your F into a X.

The update product numbers are:
CNSD-100FM for the In Dash F Series (F700/F900/F90)
CNSD-150FM for the AVIC-F500BT Map

The update should be available around July. It's an SD Card Update ONLY. There will be an introductory price of about $70.

by **pete3025** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:10 am

Wow, thank for taking the time to show the difference between the two.

by **mikeinnj** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:12 am

Wow, those improvements looks great. I may have to get the 3.0 update before I jump to the Z110. If I can get my F booting up a good bit faster I may hold on to it after all, though not likely. Good to see the improvements nontheless.

by **pete3025** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:14 am

Question for ya Jason. While you were at the show, did you get a chance to mess with that knob on the X series much? if so did it have a better feel to it? from the pic it seems a bit more flimsy on the X.

by **JasonH** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:17 am

pete3025 wrote:Question for ya Jason. While you were at the show, did you get a chance to mess with that knob on the X series much? if so did it have a better feel to it? form the pic it seems a bit more flimsy.

It's actually a lot easier to hold on to and seems more solid. The edges are raised, and the center is recessed so you can actually sort of grab the inside of it.

by **EnochLight** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:32 am

Thanks Jason! Very cool comparison of the changes. Looking forward to 3.0!

by **JasonH** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:36 am

pete3025 wrote:Wow, thank for taking the time to show the difference between the two.

I just posted it, thank Pioneer for giving it to me!

by **mikeinnj** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:37 am

From the bootup video posted, boot time for the new X/3.0 is about 20 or so seconds which is pretty good. Though, it looked like that was the time to boot to regular FM radio. Will the boot time be similar if booting directly to iPod? It looks like the only hardware changes were cosmetic/the new Apple chip. Nothing in the way of memory/cpu upgrades. I can't see Pioneer releasing the X series as their midrange navigation AGAIN with the same slowness of the F series. They must have done a full tear down and rebuild of the code to get this going.

by **JasonH** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:46 am

mikeinnj wrote:They must have done a full tear down and rebuild of the code to get this going.

They did. According to the people I talked to, the 1.0/2.0 were done by some 3rd party. 3.0 was done completely in house and "is much more efficient".

by **mikeinnj** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:07 am

JasonH wrote:
mikeinnj wrote:They must have done a full tear down and rebuild of the code to get this going.

They did. According to the people I talked to, the 1.0/2.0 were done by some 3rd party. 3.0 was done completely in house and "is much more efficient".

That is awesome to hear. I will definitely buy 3.0 before I make a final decision of the Z. Thanks for answering our many questions! Can't wait to see the test drive video tomorrow.

by **ill.die.trying** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:25 am

nice comparison, can't wait til the 3 comes out

by **pim_simons** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:17 am

i have to say it looks pretty good, does anyone know if with the 3.0 update it is possible to switch between FM radio presets with the knob

by **gatorpa** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:33 am

There is still no knob like Thoms knob though!

by **CaptainInsaneO** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:35 pm

Is there going to be a comparison like this for the Z series as well?

by **JasonH** on Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:14 pm

CaptainInsaneO wrote:Is there going to be a comparison like this for the Z series as well?

Yep! viewtopic.php?f=45&t=25042