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Typo sorry Jan 1st 2012

High power pre-out are better, they send cleaner sound and more higher signal to your amps. This means you don't have to turn up the volume to achieve the same sound with as a unit that doesn't have high power pre-outs. I agree...if money is no object get the Z110BT... much better unit and smooth running unit. The only downside is that you have to buy the MSN Direct unit separately but don't waste your time on it anyways since Microsoft will no longer be offering there service after Jan 1st 2912. I would look into the XM Traffic.

I received an email from Microsoft stating that they will no longer offer MSN Direct after Jan 1st 2012. Here is a link on the MSN Direct website. https://www.msndirect.com/MSNDirectServ ... ement.aspx

I add the branded POI's to my F90 but not all the icons shows? I have to manually a sign icons to the POI like Wendy's or Jack In The Box... some don't even have icons or the F90 doesn't display them so you can add them. Does anyone know how to correct so they all show or at lease so you can a sign them? Thanks in advance

After installing my update I find that my boot time is a little longer however the music from the radio, hd radio, cd play right away, iPod plays about the same as it did before. Touch screen is much more responsive and MSN Direct displays content within a couple minutes, maybe faster. MSN before was hit or miss on the weather and movies, now weather and movie info comes up right away as well as the gas station prices and traffic. The new addition of stocks, news and local events are nice all of which display content right away. As much as it pains me to say, Microsoft did a good job on the fi

I just did mine as well on my F90BT but noticed two things. First the POI Icons are all the generic icons... bummber because X-series says all the branded icons are installed, no need to mod. Second there is now a new icon in the source screen that says Traffic but is ghosted out. I wonder if I can hook up the XM Traffic. Any thoughts

Thanks, but I did do a search but I was at work and didn't have time to do a in depth search.

The processor in the F-series is a 600MHz SiRF Titan dual-core ARM11. Same one used in other PNAs like the HP iPaq 310 series. ARM1136EJ1 core, ARM V6 instruction set. Summary of the proc's at http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a11gst Thanks... so in my opinion the X and the F series are the same units inside, the only difference is where they placed the Pioneer logo and new knob. Just a marketing ploy to make people forget all the issues of the F-series had.

That is not true... you can buy off of MSN Direct site. link? You have to rub their system to get the link to pay... but once you get past this page (link below) it gives the option to pay or do the free activation. I believe that is what I did when I did it. I did it couple of weeks back. https://www.msndirect.com/Activation/en ... t-key.aspx

I know this is dumb question but does anyone know what processor in the F-series? The new X, Z have 600Mhz processors.

That is not true... you can buy off of MSN Direct site.

To be fair Pioneer is not charging a cent firmware update. They are charging us for the map update. What SUCKS is that they are forcing us to pay for the map update to get the firmware fixes. I don't know if I would buy another Pioneer product again... that includes tv's, dvd/blueray players etc. just plain bad customer service.

Disregard my last... I was looking at the AVIC-F500BT update page. Thanks,

It shows compatability with all units here.. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... CNSD-100FM Really because this is what it says on the top of the page: CNSD-150FM Map Upgrade for AVIC-F500BT Navigation System Suggested Price: $130.00

Here is a detail list of fixes Pioneer has on their website. ------------------------------------- Coming Soon! Model year 2009 TeleAtlas database on SD Card, featuring nearly 12 million POI, US and Canada coverage (including Alaska, Hawaii and Puerto Rico). Includes firmware version 3.0, including heading-up option in 2D view, Highway Sign Boards, enhanced map UI with improved contrast, and more. MSN Direct features 3 additional channels (news, stocks and local events) and traffic flow displayed on map. Compatible only with AVIC-F500BT. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/

That is such a shame they couldn't get it right.

I am sure we all are very interested in how the unit performs after you install the update, please keep up posted.

I wonder if the firmware for EU is compatible with US units?

Ditto!

The one thing that Leetcoder had that Pioneer didn't was this forum and it's feedback. I am telling you I am extremely amazed how well he put that together. If I was the head of Pioneer I would be reverse engineering the Leetloader... lol!

Because pretty much almost all complaints about F-series are for either bugs or design deficiencies in the software. I don't know if we can be certain slow boot times and sluggish interface can be blamed on software. I hope it is the software, but there is no proof. Same goes for the bluetooth problems. I know for sure my ipod problems (one channel sound) was hardware... The proof is in the pudding... meaning that if you look a Leetloader it boots and runs about 4 time as fast as the firmware and that is a hack/mod running on a SD card... yeah we can narrow it down to firmware. T

I don't think Pioneer is coming out with a new line... F9110 is only for VW as an option. The F700BT, F900BT and F90BT are the unit lineup for this year, they didn't even come out with any news during CES this year for a possible upgrade or replacement. I believe they might add to the line up and for all us that own a F-Series an update will be released. It doesn't make sense to RnD a new product line when their current line is not without issues that can be fixed with a firmware update. I could be wrong but from what I read about the D-Series they are rock solid but that wasn't the case when

Alpine by far is the better headunit as far as music and iPod integration than any other brand hands down. Pioneer's F-series has a nice iPod interface but lack some features in this area. For instance if you select a playlist and want to view the current list and where you are in the playlist it cannot be done. This is standard feature in iTunes which what Pioneer is trying to emulate with they're iPod, control panel interface. As for the navigation part Alpine is struggling in with it navigation and bluetooth. For a while they recalled the docking unit that gives the w505 navigation and

I don't think it is the P10 or P20 unit itself that doesn't work. I believe it is more of how the headunit works with the add-on device. Many people stated that it works on other radios but as we all know it doesn't work on the F-Series units. It has to be the firmware that interacts with each device. Did Pioneer take the time to make it fully functional... not so much.

where can i pick one up at that price? My bad I was thinking the F700BT was that price... here is a link. http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... ps-sellers And if you do some searching I am sure you can find it for less on special.