HiFiSi Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Somebody needs to figure out how to open these units up and put in more RAM lol. Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffola Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Model: Avic-F900bt Devices Connected (XM, iPod, etc) : Sirius, Ipod AV Source (if playing) during issue: ANY Action that caused the issue (pressed button, search, etc): ANY Was GPS routing? (yes/no) Sometimes Was BlueTooth active? If yes, what device? sometimes Anything else you would like to add: The unit is generally nice looking, but very poor performing. I called Pioneer yesterday and opened a case. He advised me that they were working on an upgrade, but it was being done in japan. They have stopped shipping and advised their dealers not to sell or install. They are not "BAD" just need a software tweek. I have been able to have a windows screen come up when I crashed the TEL application, I have also gotten the nav to crash. most typically it just reboots. Link to post Share on other sites
cranbers Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Wow sounds like you got a much more informed rep that I did. The guy I got didn't even know an issue existed, how about that and he even owns one! I smell some tuna here but owell, what can you do. I seem to have gotten blue tooth to work better by updating my phone's software, everyone should try that. Go to your phone makers website and see if they offer a update for your phone. Motorola actually made it extremely easy, how about that? Link to post Share on other sites
TODJA77 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 So I recently got my f90bt installed. I haven't been playing with it that long. So far I have only two complaints. 1. VR Catalog: This thing takes way too damn long. I have an 80gb ipod classic and it takes about 10 min before the "ipod may have limited connectivity at this time" screen goes off. And when it finally goes off, the voice control doesn't even work. I tried saying "play artist, metallica, pennywise, led zeppelin, etc, etc. None of them worked. I really hope the VR catalog gets fixed. When I turn it off, the unit as a whole is so much faster. 2. My second complaint is that the unit is very slow. Like many of you have been saying: it acts like a really slow computer. It is very frustrating when I have to tap a button 3 times in order for it to work. Sometimes after tapping a button it takes about 10 seconds for it to go to the next screen. Some of the other features: Bluetooth works awesome (surprisingly). connects to my iphone in aboout 1 min 30 sec. (no bad). Phone calls are clear on the other end when I asked multiple people I called. My only complaint again is the slowness of the screen. When I do contact search it is really frustrating scrolling beteween contacts. Overall, I am happy with this unit. The nav is awesome, bluetooth is pretty cool, ipod controls and video on the screen are clear and sharp. POI's are pretty cool. A firmware fix could definitely fix the slowness issue so I really hope they get on this. Overall, this unit gets an 8 out of 10. This could easily be a 10 out of 10 for me once you eliminate the slowness and stupid VR catalog glitch. Link to post Share on other sites
CatchMeIfYouCan631 Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 sorry for the probably already answered question, but what is the purpose of the VR catalogue? when i have it on, i get the ipod control may be limited screen and when its off i dont...but either way it doesnt under stand play artist...idk, godsmack, staind, disturbed, even dmx (that should be an easy one to understand) but at the same time i can change the course no problem and dial my house number via voice. Link to post Share on other sites
flinkazoid Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Model: AVIC-F700BT Devices Connected (XM, iPod, etc) : 5th Gen iPod Video Runnning FW:1.3, Verizon Razor V3C Phone AV Source (if playing) during issue: Sources could be playing or not and issues will manifest themselves Action that caused the issue (pressed button, search, etc): First Issue: all iPod browsing is alphabetical, example : browse to an album or playlist, then the songs listed are now in alphabetical order and not the order authored on the playlist or album Second Issue: When using POI, they work great if I browse to them directly, however if i use the search function an insufficent memory appears, looks very windows CE ish. Third Issue: TTS dosent work. when I set it to the english woman that has TTS, there is no TTS, furthermore the says comma instead of point. The male voise says point properly, but has no TTS Fourth issue: If i put a cursor on the screen the up,down,left,right navigation buttons appear on the right hand side of the screen, to get it to go away i now have to move the cursor to a different location and then hit the map button. Fifth Issue: Bluetooth is junk. I can hear people perfectly fine, however they cant me for S%!T. Was GPS routing? Doesn't Matter Was BlueTooth active? Doesn't matter except concerning issue five Link to post Share on other sites
schmiddytwo Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Model: avic f90bt Devices Connected (XM, iPod, etc) : 5th gen ipod AV Source (if playing) during issue: all Action that caused the issue (pressed button, search, etc): unkown Was GPS routing? (yes/no) no Was BlueTooth active? If yes, what device? no Anything else you would like to add: The touch sensitivty on my unt is awful...I adjusted it but no improvement...the responsiveness is foul Also I'm experience long boot times and poor bluetooth quality Link to post Share on other sites
sentinel421 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Model: F900BT Devices Connected (XM, iPod, etc) : USB Drive haven't got my IPOD cable yet so don't know if there are any issues with that. AV Source (if playing) during issue: Any Action that caused the issue (pressed button, search, etc): 1.) My unit takes at least 1 1/2 to 2 min to load. 2.) Touch screen are not really responsive (have to press it twice or more). 3.) Slow like others have said like a slow computer. 4.) Music skips when i connect my bluetooth. 5.) Music literally skips every second when i turn to my map mode. I have to keep it in the AV source mode to keep it from skipping. Was GPS routing? (yes/no) yes Was BlueTooth active? If yes, what device? Yes Link to post Share on other sites
nnnickkk Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 i was really looking to pick up the f90 to replace my d3, but it looks like i wont be changing a thing till all these problems get resolved. if they ever do. the z3 might be in my future now......... Link to post Share on other sites
nemo1 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Ok, I am really getting annoyed with this unit (AVIC-F90BT). Pioneer rushed this out of the gate to take advantage of the summer. I bought one to enjoy this summer. The bottom line: This thing is Crap. My main complaint is the audio dropouts while navigating. At first I thought I had a loose connection. But after checking and resoldering, I realize that it mainly happens when the GPS is running. I thought the whole idea of this "improved" AVIC was that you don't have to tie up the CD slot with a nav disk. Well, if you can't listen to music while navigating it pretty much misses the point. Shame on Pioneer for foisting this product on us car/audio enthusiasts. I paid good money for a PREMIUM unit. I didn't want to be a beta tester. Pioneer should provide the unit for free if that's what they want us to do. If this supposed patch doesn't work I'm going to return the unit and look for something else. So much for my faith in Pioneer. Link to post Share on other sites
nemo1 Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Somebody needs to figure out how to open these units up and put in more RAM lol. SI, I respectfully disagree with you. I appreciate the humor but Pioneer should have put enough RAM in the unit to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites
iposthere Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Organized Issues Thread here: http://www.avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=104953 Please only post ISSUES in the provided format. Let's keep this new one clean so Pioneer can easily use it and get things fixed. THANKS!!! Link to post Share on other sites
BlackBear Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I know we all want to be positive and "believe" that a single firmware update will come soon and will fix all of our problems. But this is more like H O P E. And we all know that hope is for suckers. "Believe" is what you do with your religon. We can't proove which is the wrong or right religion. With the F-Series time WILL eventually tell. And from the locks of it Pioneer has not produced one single unit that works as advertised. I too am full of HOPE and want to BELIEVE that all the F-Series units will come to live to its full advertised funtionality but market experience tells me otherwise. At this point I just hope that my reseller with take this experimental Alpha stage product back without any issues. There is hope again. At least I just need to make one call to find out if this hope is go or not and don't need to suffer another three months with this unusable NAV. Pioneer created a lot of demand be announcing the F-Series and is now driving a lot of people to the competittion because they don't have a product to satisfy the demand they created. Link to post Share on other sites
sentinel421 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 i just want to know how long does every1's f900bt takes to load? cause my unit takes 1 min and 25 sec to load, and i just think thats way to long. Link to post Share on other sites
dericn Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 GENERAL MAP DISPLAYS: When the map is on and you have no route plotted, Two green boxes remain on the display. A long green rectangular one on the top and a large green square in the top left where the turn by turn icon usually is. When I am simply viewing the map with no route plotted, I want these boxes gone and there is no way to do this. This is an annoying issue to me as well. Those empty boxes eat up a lot of screen real estate, and look pretty stupid when not navigating. Another thing that can also go away is the "Multi-info Window" at the lower left (distance to go, arrival time, etc.). When not navigating, these all show zeros, so they're just taking up space. I realize it can be turned off by turning "Full Screen Cockpit" on, but then it's ALWAYS off... -Eric Link to post Share on other sites
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