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Pioneer announces Z130BT, still doesn't understand consumer needs.

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Thanks for the reply and read. It's really kind of sad but I think I'm going to give the kenwood a go (not 100% yet though). I guess my next question then is (sorry not trying to hijack the thread) but I've read by far MORE awful reviews about the GM VT-GMOS-04 and have read that the scosche swc1 is a much better alternative (though I can't find many true comparisons). In a TB specifically can anyone give me any quick tips/advice regarding those two (I'm still deciding between the Z130 and the 9960 - so paired with either).

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Just be sure you understand the 9960 has issues as well that many of the members of Kenwood forums are not happy with. Also if your considering the Z130 you might want to consider the DNX9980HD as the alternative to the 130.

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Aha, you're right and my apologies. I'm still getting the 120/130 mixed up. And had been looking at the 9960/9980 today. I think i'm just undecided yet so far and really need to look deeper into the differences between the 120/130. I don't think i've quite gotten those two down and I think that a good bit of the bad reviews on the 120 that I've read might not apply to the 130 (nav excluded?).

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I may be behind on it(actually I know I am).... But is there any hardware changes from the 120 to the 130?

I can see that the bezel on the 130 is somewhat more attractive....

 

But I suppose my main question is.... is it just more of a software upgrade?

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I may be behind on it(actually I know I am).... But is there any hardware changes from the 120 to the 130?

I can see that the bezel on the 130 is somewhat more attractive....

 

But I suppose my main question is.... is it just more of a software upgrade?

 

Other then the built in HD Radio Tuner, it appears to be the same.

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Other then the built in HD Radio Tuner, it appears to be the same.

 

WOW.. out of all the cool things they could possibly build in the z130bt, they pick the one add on I have and hate... IMO they should've built in the new msn direct replacement and let us 110/120 user's get the add on.

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i have 110 upgraded to 120 and use mostly for music and video. But when comes to navi i use f500..far more reliable and option to just add city or intersection unlike 120 where i have to know street name and city for it to work.

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Ok folks new info on the traffic tuner compatibility with Z110/120/X920 units once they are upgraded with the Z130/X930 software do out this summer. The response from Pioneer is now that they do not officially support the traffic tuner with the previous units but they are not saying it wont work. Just that they don't officially support it on the previous units. So, what that means is that we will see for our selves when the new tuner and software upgrades are released. To me, this is better news.

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Ok folks new info on the traffic tuner compatibility with Z110/120/X920 units once they are upgraded with the Z130/X930 software do out this summer. The response from Pioneer is now that they do not officially support the traffic tuner with the previous units but they are not saying it wont work. Just that they don't officially support it on the previous units. So, what that means is that we will see for our selves when the new tuner and software upgrades are released. To me, this is better news.

 

is the rumor regarding the loss of VR still true, aka after updating you lose the ability to speak commands?

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is the rumor regarding the loss of VR still true, aka after updating you lose the ability to speak commands?

 

No, X920's that upgrade will keep VR. The X930 is missing the VR Hardware.

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No, X920's that upgrade will keep VR. The X930 is missing the VR Hardware.

 

that's good news, but odd in that why would they bother to code for a hardware device that didn't use the coding? Are they actually trying to be sympathetic of x920 owners? :)

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