crazycaucazian86 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Ok this is for a 1996 honda civic dx, I already know where to find the wire and what color it is. Its under my hood and its the blue/white wire. My question though is what is the ideal way to tap into the wire....the easiest that is....? Is it okay to cut the vss wire? (then do the stripping of the ends and then tap into it....and solder) or... Take a knife (exacto....switch blade...w/e) and NOT cut the wire, BUT slice around the plastic covering (or jacket...is that what its called?) in two spots...probably an inch, or inch and a half apart then slice the plastic covering following the wire connecting the two portions of the slices i had previously done and peal the covering off, without having to cut the wire. This also goes for the break wire as well...are these methods okay when it comes to messing around with the VSS wire? Sorry if its a noobish question. Also what does it mean to connect the brain to a constant and a switched 12 volt power source? and how do i do that? Any help is much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Ok this is for a 1996 honda civic dx, I already know where to find the wire and what color it is. Its under my hood and its the blue/white wire. My question though is what is the ideal way to tap into the wire....the easiest that is....? Is it okay to cut the vss wire? (then do the stripping of the ends and then tap into it....and solder) or... Take a knife (exacto....switch blade...w/e) and NOT cut the wire, BUT slice around the plastic covering (or jacket...is that what its called?) in two spots...probably an inch, or inch and a half apart then slice the plastic covering following the wire connecting the two portions of the slices i had previously done and peal the covering off, without having to cut the wire. This is the best method This also goes for the break wire as well...are these methods okay when it comes to messing around with the VSS wire? Sorry if its a noobish question. Actually good question, I don't think we've really gone into great detail on splicing into wiring. Also what does it mean to connect the brain to a constant and a switched 12 volt power source? and how do i do that? That would be the yellow (constant) and the red (switched) wires of the wiring harness I hope you're using. Any help is much appreciated. Not a problem anymore quesitons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazycaucazian86 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 so I would find the Yellow and Red wires for the switched and constant wire deal on the harness (1996 honda civic harness) i bought for the avic n3 right? I dont actually have any of the stuff right now, i just ordered it, and making sure i know exactly what im doing and understanding the whole process. im also going through the pdf installation manual i got from the pioneer site... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Yup that would be correct. It'll be a lot easier for you to get once you have everything sitting in front of you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazycaucazian86 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 yea i kinda figured once i had the stuff infront of me, that it would be alot simpler in terms of what to do...reading this pdf file manual is a bit confusing at some points....which is worrying me a lil. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Don't worry it's not a hard thing to do and that's not a hard car to work on. The most difficult thing is getting the stock radio out. After that it's a breeze. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillithz Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 personally, I like t-taps. the reason is its not permanent and can be removed easily. I dont like it because some report problems of connection issues. I however have never seen a poor connection on a t tap. I make sure that the cable is secured in such a way that the t tap maintains contact. The key is to use the right piece for the job, dont use a too large of a t tap for a small wire. splicing the wire and sliding the insulation back and soldering then taping is good though. they even make automatic strippers, often times though its hard to get these bulky tools into cramped close spots to use. Use what works, I think thats kinda universal for what makes an 'installer' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazycaucazian86 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 thanks for the input, i saw some of the t taps at the store but for some reason i couldnt understand how it was supposed to work....do you have to expose some of the wire first before using it? and if i did that route which t tap would you recommend...im currently look at this site that has pictures of them http://www.crowbarelectricalparts.com/Scotchloks.htm what would i be looking at? thanks for the input btw guys, you guys are wicked fast with info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Yes t-taps used PROPERLY will be fine. Though I've seen and fixd plenty of problems caused by using ttaps under the hood of a car. You know how hard it is to solder a wire that's coroded bcause the insulation shifted away from where the tap broke it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillithz Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 yeah you can have problems with ttaps, I cant say i have though. You dont have to expose the wire first, you just sandwich the ttap on the wire and squeeze with a pair of pliers. youll get it when you actually have a ttap in hand. Do make sure you dont sever the wire when attaching the ttap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Itchy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I've used splice connectors. They're similar to ttaps except there is no male disconnect. Use the proper gauge color. I've usually used red for the VSS connection in numerous cars. ttaps seem to be hard to come by, but Home Depot usually stocks splice connectors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crazycaucazian86 Posted February 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 yeah ive found splice connectors at Sears hardware but not ttaps, and i havent checked home depot but ill check today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cincycaddy Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 T- Taps are for girls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cntrylvr79 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 and the lazy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillithz Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 call it whatever you want. either way there are many ways to skin a cat that all accomplish the job AND are reliable. Its just how you do it and use it. Also, if someone is not proficient enough to use a t tap, I'd hardly trust them with a soldering iron near and ecu or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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