cpkdude Posted December 1, 2012 Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 They will, with a new unit. lol, pioneer, you mean....guess we shouldn't be watching tv in the car anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1loudls Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 this is why I would never buy something like an app radio, I have already had a couple of customers come back after upgrading their phones who now have very expensive FM radio's in their cars Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acme Posted December 9, 2012 Report Share Posted December 9, 2012 lol, pioneer, you mean....guess we shouldn't be watching tv in the car anyway That's what I was wondering. What are all these people watching while they drive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1loudls Posted December 10, 2012 Report Share Posted December 10, 2012 That's what I was wondering. What are all these people watching while they drive? silly rabbit, doesn't mean that the driver is watching anything, very well could be passengers watching through auxiliary screens as designed or even legally while parked... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cpkdude Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 rock videos go well with passengers. so I guess no one has bought a VGA or HDMI cable and figured out a fix? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
autumnwalker Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 This was just announced today: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/pioneer-announces-iphone-5-connectivity-kits/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1loudls Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThumperPup Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 so i guess this past post number 111 answered my question of has Pioneer come out with any solution for the Iphone 5 to work with the united and i guess the answer is still no but did i read ones that the lightning adapter from apple will allow us to use a Iphone 5 with our units it just won't allow video mode correct ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xrevolutionx Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 what if you use this http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD825ZM/A/lightning-to-vga-adapter?fnode=3a plus this http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?seq=1&format=2&p_id=2509&CAWELAID=1329459273&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CLOlw7yU6bQCFQJx4Aod6AsAew and a composite video cable and audio out of the headphone jack... I know it is a slew of cables but that would be your video out? yes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ohlarikd Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 As a long time Pioneer user, I really have officially given up on them. The lack of information from Pioneer on this iPhone 5 issue with 2012 AVIC units is sad. Perhaps they can't fix certain things, but they really should provide explanations for what works and what doesn't, and why. They should try the offical Apple adapter and post findings. Seems like its up to the great forum members here to do all the testing. But the main reason is, firmware updates. Let's face it, they are never provided. I went through this on my D1 - although updates were perfectly possible, Pioneer expects you to buy the next year model to fix your problems. I have the AVIC940, and it is riddled with issues with App Radio, Bluetooth, connection issues, etc. etc. They all could be fixed, but I will NEVER see a firmware update. Pioneer has the power through USB, but they never do it. Buy the new 2013! Some company needs to make an Android radio that you can download whatever d@mn app you want, like Slacker, Rhapsody, etc. etc. Pandora blows, Slacker is in aHa, but my iPhone 5 is screwed with this unit. Sorry to complain - I have had Pioneers since 1993. In this day and age when everyone provided TIMELY firmware updates, Pioneer does squat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1loudls Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 timely firmware updates with android? yeah right, unless you have a nexus device, you will always be behind on updates. if your lucky, its only a few months, a lot of the time its a year or more if ever... unfortunately, this is how it is with just about all of the brands, something has to be seriously wrong or broken for them to go back through and release a fix for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pionara Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Chlarikd they are not timely, but pioneer does have "updates" that bring your unit up to same as latest model. They are the yearly map updates. They are expensive but you can make an x920 run the same software as 940 or z110 run same software as z140. Now this may all change with new 50 series because of new ui and nav, which would be a major needed update - currently pioneers ui is tired and just unpolished and the nav is worst-in-class. Because of new hardware this might be changing this upgrade ability for older units. But then again If that were the case and we are talking about a new generation of medels, i would expext a new line of model numbers - say z210, etc. but anybody who knows anything about pioneer model numbering at least with avic series knows that somebody let a monkey on crack go nuts with a bag of alphabet tiles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ohlarikd Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 timely firmware updates with android? yeah right, unless you have a nexus device, you will always be behind on updates. if your lucky, its only a few months, a lot of the time its a year or more if ever... unfortunately, this is how it is with just about all of the brands, something has to be seriously wrong or broken for them to go back through and release a fix for it. Ok - you got me there on Android. But I blame that mostly on the fact that someone like Motorola and Samsung have 30 or so phones worldwide to maintain at a time - they just can't see to handle it. Apple only has 5 of so iOS iPhones since 2007 to maintain, and they do a much better job at keeping them up to date. If someone had an Android-based car stereo line, they *should* be able to keep up with maintenance since it is only a handful of units. It just takes the RIGHT company that cares - a stereo has a much longer lifespan than the average phone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ohlarikd Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Chlarikd they are not timely, but pioneer does have "updates" that bring your unit up to same as latest model. They are the yearly map updates. They are expensive but you can make an x920 run the same software as 940 or z110 run same software as z140. Now this may all change with new 50 series because of new ui and nav, which would be a major needed update - currently pioneers ui is tired and just unpolished and the nav is worst-in-class. Because of new hardware this might be changing this upgrade ability for older units. But then again If that were the case and we are talking about a new generation of medels, i would expext a new line of model numbers - say z210, etc. but anybody who knows anything about pioneer model numbering at least with avic series knows that somebody let a monkey on crack go nuts with a bag of alphabet tiles. Right - so why do I need a whole new expensive map update to fix basic things that are wrong with bluetooth, app radio, Pandora, etc.? That should be free - you know, to make the unit perform as advertised. They should have some responsibility there, but in my experience over the last 20 years with Pioneer has been that they abandon support after 1 year or less. So I am not looking to upgrade my 2012 unit to the latest 2013 functions. I just want the 2012 functions to WORK properly. Half the time Pandora images do not appear, Bluetooth Audio will not turn on until I first switch to another source and then back again, the Bluetooth Connect button on the screen never works, the App Radio UI needs a major overhaul, etc. etc. They should fix these items for free with a firmware update. I mean, has Pioneer actually tried to use this 940 unit? Not difficult fixes. But they will never come. Especially for free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ohlarikd Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 unfortunately, this is how it is with just about all of the brands, something has to be seriously wrong or broken for them to go back through and release a fix for it. This is true, in that I made a proclamation to abandon Pioneer, but really, there are no brands that do any better. I am not sure why that is. My Onkyo home receiver gets updates, my TV, my Samsung Blu-Ray player, the WiiU, PS3, my DirecTV box... every other consumer device nowadays gets regular attention. But not car audio... Anyway, back on topic - has PIONEER officially posted a statement on iPhone5 support? Seems like they could make an adapter box. My AVIC-D1 needed an iPod adapter box that then plugged into that BUS system they still use, for CD changers and such. I would be ok with an HW adapter to overcome this new Lightning cable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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