Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:57 PM
Hi guys -- thanks for all the info so far on the x8500. I was about to pull the trigger, but now I'm having second thoughts was hoping someone with the unit could help out with a few quesitons -- sorry for the long post:
The x8500 instructions (pg 51) say, for an iPhone 5, to use the USB1 port with the head unit supplied USB cable, not the 17-pin cable that comes with the CD-IH202 kit, though I assume that is wrong. Can you use the USB port instead though? Sounds like TexaBama and ccajay were able to. If so, then you don't really need to purchase the CD-IH202 kit and can just use the included USB male/female cord and any HDMI cord you'd like, along with the lightning Digital AV adapter? So what does the 17-pin cable offer over the standard supplied USB cord that is used w/ say the iphone 4, or is it just a proprietary connection with no additional functionality for Pioneer to make $$$ off?
It also says (pg 24) that a BT connection is still required w/ an iPhone 5 to use AppRadio -- what features use this connection?
Can the Pandora function be used just over a BT and/or standard USB connection, or is the crazy 3 cable digital AV contraption required? Is that considered part of AppRadio, or a separate function built into the head unit? How about the iPhone voice controls -- same question?
It also says (pg 23) that video functions on the iPod (assume this also means iPhone) won't work (I assume this is "iPod Out" functionality that was crippled by the lightning connection release), then on pg 24 it says that with the CD-IH202 kit, both music and video sources on the iPod cannot be played directly from the iPod controls, and that the CarMediaPlayer app must be used. So if the CD-IH202 cable is NOT used, and just the standard USB cord is used, will the built in iPod functionality work just no video, or does it still not work at all?
I'm trying to determine if after waiting all this time, maybe the AppRadio stuff just isn't worth the cost. I origninally just wanted a double din head unit for my 4Runner that is clean, no flashing colored lights, with HD radio and BT for calls that I could use to play music from my iPhone, and I also wanted to add a backup camera for towing (and so I don't run over my kid).
The Pioneer DVD line seemed to fit the bill, with AppRadio a great bonus addition, and since I have an iPhone 5 I've been waiting for months for the x8500 to release, but in the end I really was only going to use AppRadio for navigation, pandora, maybe some internet radio -- for $120+ in additional cords, some crazy dongle hanging off my phone which is draped all over my car, then having to go through a 5 step process each time I get in to get the phone to connect for AppRadio mode, and then having the ipod video function still somewhat crippled, is it really worth the extra cash? Seems a half baked bandaide solution until Apple sorts it's crap out with the head unit producers, at which point I'm sure it will be obsolete. I'm tempted to go for a x3500 or x5500 that I can get for under $400, and just say screw the video / AppRadio functionality. Seems even then I'm paying a fair amount of cash for AppRadio functionality I can't use. I don't watch video while driving anyway, and if I'm going to go through the trouble of converting to H.264 then I might as well load it onto an iPad and hand that to whoever wants to watch a flic on the road.
I'm hoping that's not the case and there is still a good amount of functionality that can be used with an iPhone 5 without too many things getting in the way....