Cathaldub Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I think after all the messing Pioneer do I'd go with an Alpine unit anyday once the price is comparable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meall Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 I think after all the messing Pioneer do I'd go with an Alpine unit anyday once the price is comparable. They messed up with their own technology (App Radio) which is already a messed up nightmare. If they can keep away from it and invest in Car Play it may end up better in the end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockthebeef Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 And they messed up up by using a 6.2" screen on the AR4. That was a bad move in my opinion. To set them apart, they should have looked into cramming something larger than 7" if possible, maybe by using a bezel-free screen, but that may be too costly so I would have been happy with a 7".  Luckily the Alpine will be 7", but it will also not have bluetooth, so you must have an iPhone with lightning and iOS8 to work. That could be trouble for multiple drivers with different phone models. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meall Posted October 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 And they messed up up by using a 6.2" screen on the AR4. That was a bad move in my opinion. To set them apart, they should have looked into cramming something larger than 7" if possible, maybe by using a bezel-free screen, but that may be too costly so I would have been happy with a 7". Â Luckily the Alpine will be 7", but it will also not have bluetooth, so you must have an iPhone with lightning and iOS8 to work. That could be trouble for multiple drivers with different phone models. Â I still have to see it to figure out if the 0.8" less is a real disaster, but they probably had to cut somewhere to add new features such as the BT functionality you're talking about. Other than that, someone can invest a bit more and get a 7000NEX that is 7" and have built in GPS/navigation software. Â Anyone with a AR4 that upgraded from AR2-3 can comment on the smaller screen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockthebeef Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 This is the difference. It's pretty significant in my opinion. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockthebeef Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Here's another image of the ILX-007 I found buried in the depths of the internets. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
meall Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 This is the difference. It's pretty significant in my opinion. Â Sure on paper, but what about real word usage? Â I mean, most of the GPS I've bought wee 5", and were ok for nagigation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockthebeef Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Of course you'll be able to see a 6.2" screen during real-world usage. I'm thinking more of the overall aesthetic of the car's interior. Smallish in-dash screens look silly to me when the overall space can easily fit 7" (or more if double-DIN wasn't the limiting factor). Portable units notwithstanding - they will always look out of place, regardless of size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruitbat04 Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Anyone with a AR4 that upgraded from AR2-3 can comment on the smaller screen? I would have definitely preferred the full size screen and retained physical buttons. However the trade off for carplay and the extra functions makes it worth it still. I got 2/3 the cost back selling my AR3 and as long as you can do that I'd say it's still worth it. Â That said, if you are on Android, picking up an AR3 cheap is probably the way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanjp13 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Apologies for the delay in replying guys! i'll try and answer as much as i can...  Cool! I do not use Spotify, so should not affect me at all.  Usual question: how much you pay for it? and where did you buy it? I paid £350 for it from Halfords, but i did not get them to install it!   I have a couple questions that hopefully you can help with. Thanks.  Since Carplay is inherently made for using while driving, is the feature set identical whether you're parked or driving? Does anything get blocked out? Can you get any video playback, such as a video podcast while using Carplay? If not, does that change if you have the car parked? Is there any need/desire to have a bypass if all you want to use is Carplay?  1. Yes it is, being parked or driving doesn't effect the unit. 2. I downloaded a video podcast to test, and no video was played back, just the audio was played. 3. No need to bypass anything.  I still have to see it to figure out if the 0.8" less is a real disaster, but they probably had to cut somewhere to add new features such as the BT functionality you're talking about. Other than that, someone can invest a bit more and get a 7000NEX that is 7" and have built in GPS/navigation software.Anyone with a AR4 that upgraded from AR2-3 can comment on the smaller screen?  I upgraded from an AppRadio 3 to the AppRadio 4 and to be honest, the size difference doesn't really make much different over the functionality you gain. When i installed it, i didn't 'feel' it was a lot smaller, the screen is clear and bright.  I've been using the new unit for a week now and definitely impressed with it.    If anyone else has any questions please let me know..! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJJones Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hi Mate, Â You said Carplay was primarily designed for driving and no bypass is required. Â Does that mean that Carplay does not have an on-screen keyboard? Â For example, you wish to use Apple Maps to navigate to an address. Â Do you have to use Siri to input your destination? Â Or can you also manually type in an address. Â All the review videos i have seen has not shown any sort of keyboard, only Siri. Â Cheers, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanjp13 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Hi Mate,  You said Carplay was primarily designed for driving and no bypass is required.  Does that mean that Carplay does not have an on-screen keyboard?  For example, you wish to use Apple Maps to navigate to an address.  Do you have to use Siri to input your destination?  Or can you also manually type in an address.  All the review videos i have seen has not shown any sort of keyboard, only Siri.  Cheers,  Hi  You have options for both. The first option when you go to search by default is Siri but there is a keyboard symbol in the top right corner which brings up a full keyboard.   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JJJones Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Awesome! Thanks for the reply mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PoobBubes Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Can you keep an iPod plugged in to USB 2 and easily switch between it and CarPlay with an iPhone on USB 1? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fruitbat04 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 You can certainly have a USB hard drive in USB2 and switch seamless to carplay, or even have the music from it on in the background while using carplay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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