mdwicks Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Ok I'm torn between the Avic-z2 and the Avic-d3. I love the z2's HDD and the ability to rip music to the drive as well as not having to worry about cds to navigate. But the d3 just looks so much better to me. The only thing stopping me from being totally in love with the d3 is that you can't change routes or anything unless you have the damn DVD in and that it doesn't have the ability to store anything like the z3. I also like the external AUX in of the d3. I also hear that the d3's nav is better than the z2s. Bottom line: Like the z2's HDD, don't like that it has had complaints about the nav. Like the looks and external aux in of the d3 What do you guys thing? Are there any units that combine these features? Does anyone know what the Ipod interface looks like for the z2? Pictures? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeffrey.pimentel Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 D3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mdwicks Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Why do you think the D3 is a better unit? If I could have a D3 with a HDD I think that would be perfect, able to rip music and not having to fool with DVDs for nav. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Get a D3 and a video ipod. No reason to take the take disk out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mdwicks Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 True, but I was thinking more along the lines of playing a DVD while on a road trip and needing to make a quick route change, that might be annoying or even require a stop if I'm by myself. Also if someone has a CD I might like to be able to rip a song or two off it and store it to listen to later instead of remembering the song and downloading it and putting it on the ipod. Or what if I lose/break the nav dvd and I'm on the road? That would be inconvenient with the d3, but not a worry with the z2. On the flip side, the z2's interface is uglier shit and I hear it has nav problems some times and it is more expensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaisanNYC Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Get a D3 and a video ipod. No reason to take the take disk out and stop whining. Seems like you expect alot out of a D3 for a basement bargain MSRP of $999. Get the damn Z2 and enjoy your harddrive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mdwicks Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Haha! Maybe I should. I just wish the z2 GUI was not so f'ing ugly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaisanNYC Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 looks a bit nicer than my N3's GUI, if thats any consolation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mdwicks Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 It just seems to me that someone at Pioneer should've thought about this a little bit more... When do you need all your nav capabilities? On a long trip to an unfamiliar area. When do you want to pop in a DVD or new CD? On a long trip. Do many people make long trips often? No, so any long trip is usually going to be slightly vague, so you need all your nav capabilities. How do we fix this problem? SD card slot for map data, not a dvd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwq Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 It just seems to me that someone at Pioneer should've thought about this a little bit more... When do you need all your nav capabilities? On a long trip to an unfamiliar area. When do you want to pop in a DVD or new CD? On a long trip. Do many people make long trips often? No, so any long trip is usually going to be slightly vague, so you need all your nav capabilities. How do we fix this problem? SD card slot for map data, not a dvd. Don't think it's available in US form, but in Europe I'd seriously think about the Clarion i.s.o. Pioneer Clarion MAX973HD . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mdwicks Posted September 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Yeah that clarion unit is bad ass. Too bad it only does europe. What other HDD nav units rip and store music? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScubaSteve Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Clarion does make a unit for the states and it is Bad Ass. It's the MAX675VDII. Best iPod control I've seen. Gorgeous UI. 30gig HD (Can't rip music yet) My buddy has one and I believe it puts my Z2 to shame. He just got the BT adapter for it too and it sounds perfect. Check it out. Cheaper than the Z2 also. He paid $1500 for the head-unit and the Nav. Head Unit http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2 ... 67357.html Nav Unit http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2 ... 67543.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 So it costs about the same as a Z2, doesn't store music and has less POI than a Z2, but puts it to shame? Im lost Clarion does make a unit for the states and it is Bad Ass. It's the MAX675VDII. Best iPod control I've seen. Gorgeous UI. 30gig HD (Can't rip music yet) My buddy has one and I believe it puts my Z2 to shame. He just got the BT adapter for it too and it sounds perfect. Check it out. Cheaper than the Z2 also. He paid $1500 for the head-unit and the Nav. Head Unit http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2 ... 67357.html Nav Unit http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2 ... 67543.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScubaSteve Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 So it costs about the same as a Z2, doesn't store music and has less POI than a Z2, but puts it to shame? Im lost Clarion does make a unit for the states and it is Bad Ass. It's the MAX675VDII. Best iPod control I've seen. Gorgeous UI. 30gig HD (Can't rip music yet) My buddy has one and I believe it puts my Z2 to shame. He just got the BT adapter for it too and it sounds perfect. Check it out. Cheaper than the Z2 also. He paid $1500 for the head-unit and the Nav. Head Unit http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2 ... 67357.html Nav Unit http://www.clarion.com/us/en/products/2 ... 67543.html How do you figure it cost's the same? Crutchfield sells the Z2 for $2200 while they sell the Clarion for $899 head unit and $899 Nav. Do the math. If you are smart you buy it from a stereo shop and pay $1500 out the door for the Clarion Headunit, Nav, BT adapter, iPod cable and install. But hey, I'm sure that's what you paid for your Z2. And as for putting it to shame. You will just have to see (or do a little research) the Clarions iPod interface. Best looking and as fast as the iPod itself. Here. If you can watch this and say the Z2 is better than let's hear it. http://reviews.cnet.com/in-dash-car-ste ... oplay=true The BT sounds perfect. I have the Z2 with BT and while it has many short comings I do really like it. But even I was amazed at the quality of the Clarions BT. And I'm sorry, I have a Z2 and do think it's a great system, but after playing with the Clarion I wish I could swap them out. The UI on the Clarion is beautiful. VERY intuitive very crisp screens. Also, I'm a bit jealous that the Clarion can do full screen 3D mode for nav. Most people might not car but I love it. Oh, and with the Clarion you can back up all your extra POI's on to a USB flash drive. Plugs strait into the Nav. Z2, can't. Anyway, Before you put me down on trying to help the guy find the best one out there, do some research. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whtcrxghst Posted September 3, 2007 Report Share Posted September 3, 2007 Putting you down? Who sh*t in your cereal this morning? Your first post didn't offer hardly any information except your 'friend' said it was cheaper and you think it has a better ipod interface. I then clicked on both links and if you go by their prices, it is MORE expensive than a Z2 and over twice that of a D3. Do you now have some idea of why I didn't understand your worthless post? So go play on the clarion boards if you're gonna be a bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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