_Nomad_ Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Complete writeup w/pics on removing Bose system and installing a Pioneer AVIC D2 w/aftermarket speakers and amp in a 2005 C6 Corvette w/OnStar This is a write-up on how I totally removed the bose system, amp, speakers, HU, everything, and installed a Pioneer AVIC D2 and Pioneer GEX-P920XM XM receiver with Image Dynamics CSX62, 6.5" separate system in the doors and two 10" subs in the rear in a custom built fiberglass enclosure and amprack all running off a Fosgate P850.4 amp. I did this install and write-up last year but since this is the AVIC forum and this is about installing an AVIC D2...I figured I would post it here too. Make sense? I thought so. I'll start with the doors... I removed the 10" woofer-like-things and traced the shape of it out on 1/2" MDF. I then traced the 6.5" mounting hole in the center and commenced to cuttin' like a mofo. I then pained the baffles black, mounted the 6.5" mid and attached it to the door. I did the same thing for the twiddler thingy-ma-bobs in the door panels. Again using 1/2" MDF I traced the shape of the twiddler and the mounting hole for the new ID tweeter, painted them black and mounted them back onto the door panel. I ran 14-gauge speaker wire for the mids and 16-gauge speaker wire for the tweets from the front to the back of the car. For the driver side door speakers I ran the speaker wire, along with the RCA cables, down the driver side sill area. For the passenger side door I ran the speaker wire under the dash and down the console tunnel to the rear since I used the passenger side sill area to run the 4-gauge power and ground wires for the amp. I separated the speaker wire and power wire runs because it isn't good mojo to run signal wires and power wires in the same path since it can introduce noise into the system. That's my story anyway and I'm sticking to it. In order to run wire into the doors you have to remove a black plastic cover. Behind it is a nice large cavity to run your wires through the rubber boot to the inside of the door. I used a "step bit" and drilled a 1/2" hole in it, put a rubber grommet on it and ran my speaker wires through it into the door. It is really quite simple to do. I didn't get a picture of this but since this is a living document I will try to remember to get one some day if I happen to pull the sill trim panels off again. I removed the stock Delco 6-disk in-dash CD changer HU with XM that went with the Blose system and replaced it with the Pioneer AVIC D2 DVD/NAV setup. I needed a mounting kit to install the AVIC D2. It is the double-din Metra kit #95-3304. You can pick one up here: http://search.cardomain.com/?query=peripheral%20gmah24 Or Here: http://www.corvettecaraudio.com Since I removed the Bose amp and all, I need to use this data bus module from Peripheral. It is model #GMAH24. This unit retains my OnStar system as well as keep the cars ECM from thinking any shenanigans are going on…like…installing some rowdy aftermarket stereo system or some such nonsense. It looks like this and you can get one at the same places I linked to the mounting kit. Oh, and I needed one of these little buggers too! It is the GMAHCM also made by Peripheral and it keeps the cars interior "chimes"….chiming. Without it I wouldn't know if I had my seatbelt on or not. Again, you can get one at the same places I linked to the mounting kit. And now for something completely different. Ok, now remember when I said I removed the Bose system…completely? And because of that I need that doohickey to retain my OnStar? Well, I also need to run some speaker wire to a separate speaker to hear the OnStar "voices" and phone through since I no longer have a Bose amp and speakers to do this for me, and even though the voices in my head provide far better conversations, they can't replace the OnStar voices. So….what to do? Well, there are some wire outputs on that GMAH24 whatchadinkle that are meant to go to speakers. So what I did was I removed the center channel from the dash. I then unplugged the Bose connector and soldered the positive and negative speaker leads to the terminals on the crappy Bose paper speaker. I figured, why not? It will only be playing a voice through it so it doesn't have to be a great speaker. Besides, there is no such thing as a "stereo" voice, so mono will be just fine. I then ran the speaker wire through the dash and hooked it to the speaker output on the GMAH24 dojigger and VOILA! I now have OnStar through the center dash speaker! This is how it looks. Now, since I removed the stock Bose system the factory XM receiver is useless. So I installed the Pioneer GEX-P920XM XM receiver in the empty well that was left behind when I removed the Bose amp. It's the perfect spot for this gizmo. I then ran the wires and new XM antenna up to the new HU and mounted the XM antenna next to the AVIC D2's GPS antenna on top of the vent ducts. Seems to work just fine too! Both the GPS and XM antennas are each about the size of a quarter so they fit perfectly on the vent. Also the antenna wires are run in separate directions to avoid interference. Here are a couple pics of it. I need to run grab a drink sooooo…watch teh funny till I get back CLICKY HERE (Continued next post) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_Nomad_ Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Mmmmm….sweet tea! Ok, now in order for the NAV unit to accurately place you on the map, it uses a GPS antenna, A VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor) wire tap, and a Reverse Gear wire tap. The VSS wire tells the NAV unit how far and fast you are moving forward and the Reverse Gear wire tells the NAV unit how far you have moved backwards. Together with the GPS antenna it can calculate accurately where the heck you are and display YOU on the map….kinda creepy and cool at the same time. Your car now KNOWS where you are! The Reverse Gear wire that you need to tap in to is located in the wire bundle at the BCM which is found in the passenger side floorboard right next to the fuse box. It is the light green wire, there is only one so it isn't hard to find. It looks like this. Since this car had the Bose stereo, the VSS wire is located in the black 12 pin wiring harness that goes into the back of the stereo. It is the dark green wire with a white stripe. Located at pin D. There is a second dark green wire with white stripe at pin H but that is the right audio signal wire so it is dead now. This is the wire you will need to tap. (Note: Non-Bose systems do NOT have this wire here. If you do not have the Bose stereo you will have to go to either the instrument cluster bundle or the ECM to find the VSS wire. However it would be easier to go the instrument cluster. The VSS wire is located at pin 6 on the instrument cluster plug. Again, it is a dark green wire with white stripe.) To further help you follow my description of the 12 pin connector going to the Bose stereo, here is a scan I made of the wiring diagram of the 12 pin connector that goes to the Bose stereo and the location of the VSS wire. The parking break wire has to be tapped into the power wire that goes to the parking break switch. This is done for safety reason so you don't kill yourself and everyone else by fiddling with the NAV map while driving…and…cuz…"they" say so. Of course grounding that wire will bypass the safety feature but you didn't hear that from me…ok? The wire you need is this light blue wire coming from the parking break to the main harness that goes to all the plugins and switches in the console. (Disclaimer: By law I must tell you to tap in here or the parking break wire police will smote me on the head with a shillelagh and call me names, which ordinarily I don't mind as long as they are pretty women who spend all of my money and diminish my self esteem.) Note: Keep a look out for this bugger! It's the dreaded ground loop…avoid it at all cost! Now comes the making of the foundation board made of 3/4" MDF that I used to mount the sub enclosure to. It will also be used as an amprack. I simply measured and cut the contours of the rear hatch area. Here is a pic of it after carpeting and test fitting the amp and stuff and junk. I then covered it in carpet, laid it down in the back and started building the frame of the sub enclosure that would eventually mount to it. Here is the sub enclosure framed up and ready for fleece. This will be a fiberglass enclosure. Here is the sub enclosure finished and sanded…and sanded…and sanded… You can see where I am going with the amp rack here. I made a cover for the amp and stuff and junk and slapped it on giving the amp the 'ole flush mount look. Now here are some pics of the finished product after having the sub enclosure and amprack lid covered in "midnight black" vinyl. This vinyl is a GM design so it matches the interior very well. Oh, and yes, the targa top fits in the back just fine. Here is the targa top stowed in the back with no obstructions. It kinda looks like a smiling frog doesn't it? Now, if you do everything I mentioned above, and a lot that I didn't, then you too can have a Pioneer AVIC D2 in your C6 Corvette that looks like this…TADA! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ANTP228 Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 nice job!, you would think that someone with that kind of fabrication skill wouldn't use t- taps, or that scotch lock piggy back connectors, ever heard of solder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
installthis06 Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 haha yea t-taps..lame, but nice job on the box and amp rack! looks great and the ground loop is funny as hell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hottwhyrd Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 not the toughest job but great write up and photos. thanks for contributing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_Nomad_ Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 nice job!, you would think that someone with that kind of fabrication skill wouldn't use t- taps, or that scotch lock piggy back connectors, Actually, someone of that "fabrication skill" knows only a moron would cut and splice into the cars stock wiring harness when a good quality T-tap will work just fine (and can be removed without damage to the stock harness). ever heard of solder? Uhh…you mean that metal alloy consisting of distinct percentages of two or more metals used to join metal items together by applying heat and allowing them to cool which results in a metal alloy bond between the metals that secures the connection and promotes good electrical conductivity? Yeah, a quick perusal of the original post shows that solder stuff you mentioned was, in fact, used when needed to make electrical connections unrelated to the stock harnesses. I didn’t even have to read to see that, there are little pictures of it…weird. But thank you for the back handed compliment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
_Nomad_ Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 not the toughest job Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Julius Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Very nice job but more importantly, how does the sub sound and where did you acquire your excellent skills? What brand of speakers did you use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ANTP228 Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 WELL I DONT KNOW HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK BUT YOU CAN TAP A WIRE WITHOUT CUTTING IT, REMOVING PART OF THE WIRE INSULATION, ATTACHING ANOTHER WIRE AROUND IT AND SOLDING IT DOES NOT VOID FACTORY WARRANTIES, EVER HEARD OF THE MAGNUSON-MOSS WARRANTY IMPROVEMENT ACT? ALL I WAS SAYING WAS THAT THE FABRICATION WORK WAS VERY NEAT AND CLEAN, BUT I DIN'T LIKE THE T- TAPS AND PIONEER'S CHEAP VERSION OF A SCOTCH LOCK, IF YOU TRUST THAT TYPE OF CONNECTION, GOOD FOR YOU. I'VE BEEN DOING CUSTOM ALARMS AND REMOTE STARTS FOR ABOUT FIFTEEN YEARS NOW, LAST WINTER I DID ABOUT 52 REMOTE START SYSTEMS, IN VAROIUS CARS, HOW MANY CAME BACK FOR BAD CONNECTIONS, = 2 , BUT NOT FOR A BAD SOLDER JOINT, I SOLDER ALL OF THE REMOTE START SYSTEMS, LESS CHANCE OF BAD CONNECTIONS, I USED TO USE SCOTCH LOCKS, IN THE PAST, UNTILL CALL BACKS WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE DUE TO POOR CONNECTIONS. A CORVETTE, WITH ALL OF THE ONBOARD COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND LAN NETWORKS, BAD CONNECTION NOT A GOOD IDEA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d94 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 fucking gorgeous job! wish i had the bawls to install my d3 =) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
switzxx20 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 WELL I DONT KNOW HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS WORK BUT YOU CAN TAP A WIRE WITHOUT CUTTING IT, REMOVING PART OF THE WIRE INSULATION, ATTACHING ANOTHER WIRE AROUND IT AND SOLDING IT DOES NOT VOID FACTORY WARRANTIES, EVER HEARD OF THE MAGNUSON-MOSS WARRANTY IMPROVEMENT ACT? ALL I WAS SAYING WAS THAT THE FABRICATION WORK WAS VERY NEAT AND CLEAN, BUT I DIN'T LIKE THE T- TAPS AND PIONEER'S CHEAP VERSION OF A SCOTCH LOCK, IF YOU TRUST THAT TYPE OF CONNECTION, GOOD FOR YOU. I'VE BEEN DOING CUSTOM ALARMS AND REMOTE STARTS FOR ABOUT FIFTEEN YEARS NOW, LAST WINTER I DID ABOUT 52 REMOTE START SYSTEMS, IN VAROIUS CARS, HOW MANY CAME BACK FOR BAD CONNECTIONS, = 2 , BUT NOT FOR A BAD SOLDER JOINT, I SOLDER ALL OF THE REMOTE START SYSTEMS, LESS CHANCE OF BAD CONNECTIONS, I USED TO USE SCOTCH LOCKS, IN THE PAST, UNTILL CALL BACKS WERE ALL OVER THE PLACE DUE TO POOR CONNECTIONS. A CORVETTE, WITH ALL OF THE ONBOARD COMPUTER SYSTEMS AND LAN NETWORKS, BAD CONNECTION NOT A GOOD IDEA. Calm down, is your CAPS LOCK key broken? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rebel13 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 would you be interested in bulding another box for my c6,if so how much,no subs,no cover for 2 12s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScoobyDoo555 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Excellent write up FWIW, MY impression is that you're not an ICE-installer by trade, therefore this venture has been a hobby, home-user mod. And a VERY good and neat one too Me thinks there's a bit of Corvette envy going on here Out of interest though, how do the subs sound? I'm only asking as there's not much in the way of volume (air) for the subs to move. (Granted, it's a 'vette, so space isn't exactly a premium!!! ) How have you got around any potential phasing from the 2 subs? Vettes seem a very popular US sports car - are they pricey over there? (I'm UK-based, so we don't see too many on our roads) Scoob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScoobyDoo555 Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Just to add, the *ONLY* real thing I would have changed would have been to colour-match the leather to the seats.... just to make it a bit more OEM... Scoob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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