03Aviator Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Folks, do these all play well together? I am looking at trying out an iPhone 6 (yea...I know...I can't believe it either) I have been using ARU Reloaded with an Android phone and it works...but it's now what I would call seamless. I think that Pioneer caters to iPhone, so I have a feeling Carplay will work better for me. Besides, I hated losing my voice activated phone from my Z2. (incredibly stupid Pioneer) What about things like iHeart radio, Sirrius, etc? Do those work with the iPhone and Carplay? Thanks in advance for your input. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philfrompa Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 iHeart Radio, Rdio, Spotify, Stitcher, and Overcast, I think are the only apps that work with carplay right now. That is besides their own stock apps, messages, phone, maps, etc. I thought CBS News was supposed to, but it does not show up in my CarPlay. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pjrm68 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 CBS News shows up in my CarPlay and works pretty well. Still waiting for MLB At Bat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
03Aviator Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 It's very disappointing how they limit the apps you can use. So I take it Waze won't work? It sounds like AR Unchained Reloaded and Android is the best way to go if you want the most flexibility. I did look online at Apple Maps and they do appear to be a huge upgrade to what we get on the Nex. Man...that software is just pathetic. I assume (and that could be a huge ass mistake) that an iPhone 8 with iOS 8 will work with the Nex 8000 (with firmware update)? And does anyone know what connection cable will be used? Lightning, USB, ?? Thanks again folks. Since I'm going to buy this phone outright, it's a big investment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
03Aviator Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 One other question... Let's say I'm using Maps with Carplay on my iPhone and I want to listen to Sirrius/XM radio at the same time. I can do that with an Android phone attached...Pioneer has a way for that to happen. You can actually listen to just about any other a/v source and still use AppRadio. Can you do the same with Carplay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IntrusDave Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Apple is not limiting the apps. The app developers need to make the app CarPlay compatible. The stereo works as a second monitor, so the app need to understand how to display content on it, using the CarPlay API. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philfrompa Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I think once you have CarPlay open, you can go back to NEX mode and start SiriusXM, and then go back to CarPlay/Maps, and XM will still continue to play. You just would not have any control over XM unless you went all the way out to NEX again. Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philfrompa Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Waze works fine with AppRadioLive. For the CBS News, is there a special app that works with CarPlay? I have the one just labeled CBS News and it does not show up on my CarPlay. I read every build on the app, and no where did it state that it works with CarPlay. But yet some say it does. Thanks Phil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DP3343 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ok to clear some things up. Currently there are 3 kinds of carplay scenarios. 1. Carplay second display mode. Currently Apple only. Custom interface created by the phone customized for the app. This is how all the apple first party apps work with the exception of the podcasts app. 2. Carplay media player apps. These send data to some kind of carplay music app that the phone has. The interface for all these apps is the same. The best way to understand this is that it is a kind of media remote control for your open app. It can read metadata from the app, scan playlists, artists saved, whatever, and the developer can create custom buttons for the app media control app if they wish, like in iHeartRadio you have a like this song, and a bookmark button. In the podcasts app you can go back and forth by 30 seconds. 3. non supported app control. This only allows for play/pause and fast forward/rewind. Any non supported media app of any kind uses this. No custom API required. Few other things. 1. Any sound coming from your phone will go through carplay. 2. Your phone is not locked out while using carplay. So that means... 3. You can run ANY unsupported app while in carplay, including waze and google maps, but they will not display on the headunit. They will however send their audio through the car speakers, use the car microphone, and display on the iPhone if they are the active app on screen. 4. Apple has not yet opened the APIs to allow more powerful apps to be used in carplay, but when the original iPhone launched the only apps they ever allowed were Web apps until they had a good plan forward. So I doubt this situation is forever. 5. Any audio source can be used at the same time as carplay that is supported on the iPhone with only one exception and that is bluetooth audio. It is disabled on the Pioneer while in carplay. However, the USB 2 can accept another iPhone or android device, the HDMI port works, as does the aux or any other port, or the HD radio or the Satellite radio if you have that module for your Pioneer. 6. To do this simply press the home button on the Pioneer, or the virtual one in carplay and then the Pioneer button on the display, and then from the source menu click the audio source you want to listen to. You can also go back to carplay to use apple maps check your messages or take phone calls. The Pioneer radio will happily mix all sources together. You can even hot swap between the control interface and Carplay by pressing the mode button. 7. This also works in Reverse. If you have a NAV unit (5000-8100) you can run the built in Nav while using carplay to control your phone music and whatnot. Again the headunit happily mixes all sources. Hope all this info Helps! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
03Aviator Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Wow! Thank you for the great info! A couple things I didn't realize. One, you can run Waze on your iphone and Nex if you are using AppRadio Live instead of Carplay...if I understood everyone correctly. Two...you can have Google Maps on your iPhone?? I didn't realize this was possible due to the hatred between the two companies. If you can have Google Maps and Waze, will Chrome run on it as well? That may be a stretch... I've just about made up my mind. Right now, I'm down to a Samsung S5 and an iPhone 6. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KarNPlay Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 If you can have Google Maps and Waze, will Chrome run on it as well? That may be a stretch... Yes, you can install Chrome on an iPhone. It's in the App Store at https://appsto.re/us/NVp8F.i Quote Link to post Share on other sites
03Aviator Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I have to admit...that really surprises me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kolenka Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I have to admit...that really surprises me. Well, to be fair, it does have a couple drawbacks: 1) It uses WebKit on iOS like Safari. So you mostly use Chrome for the UI, and syncing of bookmarks with Google's servers. Not because the rendering of pages is any different or faster. 2) It can't be used as the default browser. So apps that want to send you to Chrome when you click a link need to specifically support it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donmontalvo Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Ok to clear some things up. Currently there are 3 kinds of carplay scenarios. 1. Carplay second display mode. Currently Apple only. Custom interface created by the phone customized for the app. This is how all the apple first party apps work with the exception of the podcasts app. 2. Carplay media player apps. These send data to some kind of carplay music app that the phone has. The interface for all these apps is the same. The best way to understand this is that it is a kind of media remote control for your open app. It can read metadata from the app, scan playlists, artists saved, whatever, and the developer can create custom buttons for the app media control app if they wish, like in iHeartRadio you have a like this song, and a bookmark button. In the podcasts app you can go back and forth by 30 seconds. 3. non supported app control. This only allows for play/pause and fast forward/rewind. Any non supported media app of any kind uses this. No custom API required. Few other things. 1. Any sound coming from your phone will go through carplay. 2. Your phone is not locked out while using carplay. So that means... 3. You can run ANY unsupported app while in carplay, including waze and google maps, but they will not display on the headunit. They will however send their audio through the car speakers, use the car microphone, and display on the iPhone if they are the active app on screen. 4. Apple has not yet opened the APIs to allow more powerful apps to be used in carplay, but when the original iPhone launched the only apps they ever allowed were Web apps until they had a good plan forward. So I doubt this situation is forever. 5. Any audio source can be used at the same time as carplay that is supported on the iPhone with only one exception and that is bluetooth audio. It is disabled on the Pioneer while in carplay. However, the USB 2 can accept another iPhone or android device, the HDMI port works, as does the aux or any other port, or the HD radio or the Satellite radio if you have that module for your Pioneer. 6. To do this simply press the home button on the Pioneer, or the virtual one in carplay and then the Pioneer button on the display, and then from the source menu click the audio source you want to listen to. You can also go back to carplay to use apple maps check your messages or take phone calls. The Pioneer radio will happily mix all sources together. You can even hot swap between the control interface and Carplay by pressing the mode button. 7. This also works in Reverse. If you have a NAV unit (5000-8100) you can run the built in Nav while using carplay to control your phone music and whatnot. Again the headunit happily mixes all sources. Hope all this info Helps! Only one navigation option can run at a time. If you're using NEX navigation, and switch to CarPlay Maps, NEX will cancel the route. Same vice versa. I found this to be a really well thought out function/behavior. There are times I'm using NEX navigation but I want to switch to CarPlay Maps as I enter a large city, and I just tell SIRI where I want to go, and it'll cancel the NEX navigation and take you right into CarPlay Maps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herbert68 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Waze works fine with AppRadioLive. For the CBS News, is there a special app that works with CarPlay? I have the one just labeled CBS News and it does not show up on my CarPlay. I read every build on the app, and no where did it state that it works with CarPlay. But yet some say it does. Thanks Phil @philfrompa Your post made me download and launch AppRadio Live for the first time, but I have no clue how it works. I created and account, logged in and all I see is a black window with two buttons: settings and help. Is my assumption correct that I need to plugin my iPhone for this app to work? How do you get Waze to work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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