kcdc Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm pretty frustrated over the fact that this 8100 can't manage 3600 music files, flac, wav and mp3. This has happened on fat32 and ntfs, 128 and 64 gb types. I trimmed it down from 4700 or so to the above 3600 thinking that would help. Thing is, sometimes it will boot up fine, index the files and start playing while indexing, but thats not so often. Most of the time it will sit on the initial "loading" screen then just go to black. First time that happened I freaked until I realized it's my USB key. I know a lot of you have had no issues with this. Am I missing something in my format? Is it too many folders? Apologies, I know this has been brought up, but I haven't had the patience to go leafing through all the posts as my searches don't come up with much. What do I have to abide by in order to get as much music as possible on this USB key without locking up the system? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herbert68 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I'm pretty frustrated over the fact that this 8100 can't manage 3600 music files, flac, wav and mp3. This has happened on fat32 and ntfs, 128 and 64 gb types. I trimmed it down from 4700 or so to the above 3600 thinking that would help. Thing is, sometimes it will boot up fine, index the files and start playing while indexing, but thats not so often. Most of the time it will sit on the initial "loading" screen then just go to black. First time that happened I freaked until I realized it's my USB key. I know a lot of you have had no issues with this. Am I missing something in my format? Is it too many folders? Apologies, I know this has been brought up, but I haven't had the patience to go leafing through all the posts as my searches don't come up with much. What do I have to abide by in order to get as much music as possible on this USB key without locking up the system? Not knowing how you organized your USB device, folders, structure, and such, it is not possible to answer your questions. I have an old iPod Classic with 90GB of music connected to the USB 2 port. This iPod holds more than 10,000 songs and I mostly use playlists to listen to my music. There has been no issues with playing, scrolling, selecting or remembering the last song played. I definitely prefer the iPod interface on the touch screen of my 8100 over navigating a folder structure on a USB stick or SD card. I hope you'll get your problems sorted out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcdc Posted September 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Thanks for the response. Since the iPod is doing the indexing of the files for the NEX unit, with the unit just being a second screen, I don't think it's considered the same as a drive with a bunch of music files on it, requiring the unit to index everything. I'm going to clean the drive and try again, not being so lazy this time and actually organize everything better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcdc Posted September 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Did a better cleanup of my files. only music files, minimal folder structure. Read the drive up to 100% multiple times while driving around, turning car on and off.. Whew! Then I make a stop somewhere, and it does it again, NEX load screen for longer than usual to black screen with no way out of it. Going to try yet another drive, I guess, I thought I fixed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aforlano Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I have this exact same problem. I have two PNY 128GB USB drives (one is USB 2.0, the other is USB 3.0). Both are identical formats (FAT32). Both have folders and sub-folders (Music>Artist Name;Video>Artist Name). If I leave these drives in when I start the car, the radio will never fully boot. However, if I remove the drive, then plug the USB sticks in AFTER the car has started and the radio boots, they read perfectly and there's no issue until I turn the car off again. Does anyone have any feedback/info on this? It's VERY annoying... Thanks in advance! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aforlano Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 A quick follow-up. I tried swapping the USB 3.0 stick with the USB 2.0 stick and the issue doesn't seem to be happening. I'll report back in a few days and let you know if the results are consistent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goke Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 It doesn't matter how you organize your files.....there's a media file/folder limit. It would be nice if Pioneer remove this limitation. you can look in here http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/81411-any-alternatives-for-those-with-more-than-15000-files1500-folders/&do=findComment&comment=333872 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aforlano Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 As a follow-up, the last few days I haven't had a single lock-up using my USB 2.0 stick vs. the USB 3.0 stick. I'm wondering if it has something to do with USB voltage, perhaps??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
makaiolani Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 All of my different USB drives are FAT32 and it still hangs up on loading my files. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goke Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 It can lock up when you exceed the file/folder limit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
makaiolani Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 I am having the same issues. I noticed its with my USB sticks with FLAC files on it. I tried using a 2.0 USB stick and still problems. I called Pioneer and they said it might be the USB ports, but that doesn't make sense if it reads it and locks up. Then I have another car and I installed the 4100nex and it has the same problems. It's a software issue for sure. Pioneer needs to fix this. I have never had this problem with other headunits. Anyone else have any luck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
onebyside Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Usb, Sd and SSD and Sata, have all worked problem free on my 8000....on every fw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kcdc Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I have this exact same problem. I have two PNY 128GB USB drives (one is USB 2.0, the other is USB 3.0). Both are identical formats (FAT32). Both have folders and sub-folders (Music>Artist Name;Video>Artist Name). If I leave these drives in when I start the car, the radio will never fully boot. However, if I remove the drive, then plug the USB sticks in AFTER the car has started and the radio boots, they read perfectly and there's no issue until I turn the car off again. Does anyone have any feedback/info on this? It's VERY annoying... Thanks in advance! This has been my method so far... it's a minor annoyance.. Trying something now to see what happens. Stay tuned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rivelino Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hi! This is a software problem. The software on my Android phone reads the music files on SD card once. When I restart the phone it starts playing immediately. The software from Pioneer tries to read USB/SD every time you turn on the unit or even when you switch from one AV to another. Sometimes it hangs for about 2 minutes when I switch from video to music on same AV. I contacted Pioneer's support but they ignore the problem.I'm thinking in return my unit to store. It's useless. Today it takes more than 5 minutes to resume the song it was playing yesterdar when I turned it off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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