Hi All

New to this forum and to my AVIC (1 week old). In Australia this unit is sold as an AVIC HD3 - it looks identical to your Z2 (with tpretty much the same features). You have a D3 model but this is not the same as the HD3 I have bought.

My question is do you know if they are basically the same technically other than the name change.

Overall I guess I am asking if I can use the various advice you have offered on this forum will apply ot my HD3.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers

The general assumption is that, barring different maps, they're the same. But since I've yet to see anything concrete to that, I guess now's as good a time than any to compare their operation manuals.

I've also e-mailed Pioneer and am waiting to see what they write back.

AVIC-Z2 Manuals

AVIC-HD3 Manuals

Thanks Inferno - Appreciate your efforts. I have had a look at the 2 manuals and they seem to be similar but then there are some differences. The HD3 does not have XM Traffic update - we dont have that service in Australia yet (unbelievable I know !!). Also your maps include 3D icons / POI - ours dont.

Cheers

Well, I got a (rather lame) response:

Thanks for contacting Pioneer Electronics, Inc.

Based on your e-mail request, we feel that we can be of better assistance if you contact our Product Support line.

Please contact us at (800)421-1404 for further assistance.

Thank You,

Maribel

Customer Service Representative

So in other words what she meant was " I dont know the answer so ring them and they might know !!"

Thanks for trying.

Can I ask you anotherquestion and please dont think me stupid. I see many people talking about doing a bypass on the Z1 and Z2 - what is this exactly - from what I can gather it is over riding the system to able to watch DVD's whilst the car is in motion ?

Sorry to keep bothering you.

Luke

LOL, yeah, I tried calling and got nowhere.

I see many people talking about doing a bypass on the Z1 and Z2 - what is this exactly - from what I can gather it is over riding the system to able to watch DVD's whilst the car is in motion ?

Yup, you got it. It allows you to do everything you CAN'T do when the parking brake is disengaged, including search addresses using the on screen keyboard, watch video, dial phone numbers by number, modify POI view settings, etc.

Also, I've done a little more research into the HD3 Vs. Z2 question. On top of the obvious differences with different maps and different POI's specific to the area, the manuals indicate the AVIC-HD3 is MISSING the following Z2 features:

• [*:49czp32m]Telephone search[*:49czp32m]All NavTraffic features[*:49czp32m]Emergency Info feature[*:49czp32m]City View[*:49czp32m]Language selection[*:49czp32m]All of the features introduced in the Z1 to Z2 upgrade, including:
  • [*:49czp32m]ability to show or hide address book icons on Nav screen[*:49czp32m]a few new alternate voice commands[*:49czp32m]lower-case letters on keyboard[*:49czp32m]New routing option "avoid roads with time restrictions" (like draw-bridges)[*:49czp32m]2D and 3D twin view selectable from Map Mode screen[*:49czp32m]3D landmarks in 3D view (there's only 3)[*:49czp32m]NavTraffic event icons have smaller icons when zoomed out[*:49czp32m]a few new bluetooth address book options[*:49czp32m]Changeable Splash screen

Also, it appears the default Vinicinity Search POI Shortcuts are different.

Other than that, they're the same unit, as far as I can tell.

Thanks again Inferno and sorry for the late reply but have been overseas in countries where there definition of interent connectivity leaves a lot to be desired.

It sounds as though the Z2 is a superior unit to the HD3 in terms of some of those additional features (particularly the ability to type in lower case....pedentic but it really bugs me in the HD3).

I would love to have the ability to watch videos etc even with the handbrake disengaged (well my kids would as I would obviously be driving !!).

I will have to look into how easy it is to do and whether it would work for the HD3.

Thanks again for you time and effort.

Cheers

Luke

Thanks again Inferno and sorry for the late reply but have been overseas in countries where there definition of interent connectivity leaves a lot to be desired.

 

It sounds as though the Z2 is a superior unit to the HD3 in terms of some of those additional features (particularly the ability to type in lower case....pedentic but it really bugs me in the HD3).

 

I would love to have the ability to watch videos etc even with the handbrake disengaged (well my kids would as I would obviously be driving !!).

 

I will have to look into how easy it is to do and whether it would work for the HD3.

 

Thanks again for you time and effort.

 

Cheers

 

Luke

Actually, the HD1 is more or less identical to the Z1, the HD3 is identical to the Z2. That includes all features like 3D POI's etc.

The major difference is that the HD3 of course has European maps, different region code and, major difference, a FM receiver with different frequency grid and RDS with TMC traffic info and rerouting...

Also the bypass is easier ( just hook up the handbrake wire to ground)

Software for the navi is identical. Just like with the Z1 & Z2, you can upgrade the HD1(BT) to a HD3(BT) ....

Thanks JWQ

You state that the HD3 is the same software as the Z2 however i do not have 3D POI and my kepyboard does not offer the choice of lower case.

This is why I assumed the software was not the same. i have gone back to ask Pionner in Australia here but do not expect a fast or great answer.

Luke

Thanks JWQ

 

You state that the HD3 is the same software as the Z2 however i do not have 3D POI and my kepyboard does not offer the choice of lower case.

 

This is why I assumed the software was not the same. i have gone back to ask Pionner in Australia here but do not expect a fast or great answer.

 

Luke

Lol! I love it when people guess.

Like I said, it's NOT identical to the Z1. There are differences other than just the differences introduced in the Z2 upgrade.

Hi Inferno - sorry if I have misinterpreted you or offended - you did say it was not identical and I agree as the differences to my HD 3 are exactly as you described but JDW said they are identical.

I iagree with you - I disagree with JDW

I was not sure if your sarcasm was aimed at me - if it was I am sorry - I meant no offence and am very grateful for the help you have offered.

Cheers

Luke