Pioneer is showing a date of 5/20/08 on their web site for their new F series. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/ ... Navigation

Pretty sure thats just the portable. Our rep said early July for the double-dins

Nope my installer said all will be in hand by end of the month. And to expect a lot more hype from Pioneer.

For some reason I have more faith in the estimate the guy in the Pioneer shirt gave me personally than the one given by an installer. But I have always been a pessimist

They've already got the F900 unit in Crutchfield's latest catalog selling for $1099 or so. The catalog came in the mail last week. It's not on their website yet, though.

Crutchfield said it would be the end of the month too. Car Toyz in Houston said they would have them ready to install on the 20th of this month. They are already selling them in Europe. My only concern is the bypass...

Not sure if this has been brought up yet about the video/GPS ....

Do you think that Pioneer will make the new F-series un-bypassable? I mean the D3 was super easy to bypass ... wonder what stance Pioneer will take on it ...

There has never been a Pioneer nav that was "un-bypassable." Don't see why they would start now, it would kill their sales

Not sure if this has been brought up yet about the video/GPS ....

 

Do you think that Pioneer will make the new F-series un-bypassable? I mean the D3 was super easy to bypass ... wonder what stance Pioneer will take on it ...

Yeah, I don't think they would ever make a unit that wasn't bypassable unless they had absolutely no choice but to. I would guess that like 90 percent of the people who bought the D3 have it bypassed, and that the clear majority of those people would have bought a different product if the D3 was not able to be bypassed. Pioneer's not going to willingly risk losing that many sales.

Second....

I wouldnt have bought it if I couldnt have bypassed it.