I currently own the Z1... I am being drawn to the new F series for the fact I can play music/videos off of a USB stick or SD card.

At this point - would it be smart for me to sell of the Z1 for the new f series? I hear there are issues with these units.

Thanks Guys.

Nick

Wait and see if the upcoming update fixes the Fs

F series have lots of bugs. Pioneer claims they will be releasing one or more user-installable firmware updates to rectify these bugs in the near future. People here are waiting with baited breath.

Recommend you wait to buy until firmware updates are released and avic411.com users confirm issues are resolved.

CT uses less words and beats HU.

You won this round...

Like everyone said, defineatly wait. I have to be honest though, i was more satified with the unit before i found there is going to be an update becasue i'm sick of waiting. The only real issues i personal have is boot time (which supposadly will not get fixed) and the fact it drops my calls if i'm on the phone and get into my car (i have another BT device i can use to solve this, as well as have navigation commands while on the phone). So, with everything wrong with it, i am still relatively happy as is.

How does the USB and SD video/mp3 playback work? that is my real selling point!

im not a fan of the slow boot up time but i guess its something to get use to

Dude I have two F90BT holding up some books on my bookshelf.... wait... Pioneer really blew this one... great hype, but shitty delivery.. I put the Z1 back in and upgraded it to the Z3....

you know what i been playing music and videos whit the usb and sd card since my f700 don't recognize my touch since the upgrade and it plays very nice the music and videos, you can play mp4 videos and avi and they look very nice

I am SO sick of this BS. Sure the user interface is pretty but the "update" just made things worse. I am the most patient persos ever and I am getting so fed up with the (among other things) dropped ipod, having to push the button 5 times for it to register, and the lacking features that I was used to with my Z2 that they didn't carry over to this unit.

If you want an overall better unit, get the Eclipse AVN 6620, that's what I'm doing.

My issue with the other Navs are they look cheap, where as Pioneer seems to have better looking maps and interfaces though they dont always work... LOL F Series.... I think my Z series is great... upgrade to the Z3 seems to just work better....

One would think that the next generation would be better than the last. Not so with the F series, can't see the screen unless it's dark outside, long boot time, etc. I would pass if I were you, I wish I wouldn't have bought one.

So I just got off the phone with Pioneer relaying the problems i'm having with the unit. I told him ever since the firmware update it has been nothing but problems. The main examples I gave were the touch screen being on a delay, my phone not staying connected, and also dropping my ipod.

He said that the firmware wouldn't have caused any of these to all of a sudden start occuring. He recommended to reinstall the software on the ipod. Yeah, right.

Next, I told him that I got rid of a Z2 to get this unit becuase I thought I was getting the superior unit. He informed me that the F series is an economy unit. So I questioned, "Why then disnt you put the higher resolution and nicer user interface on the the new Z3?" His response: "It won't fit on the screen. I don't know if you knew this but the Z has a different size screen." No shit.

And lastly, the one thing that just made me realize they really let this get out of hand, are the 2 greenish blue squares for the route that never go away. He said they were intentional and they ARE MEANT TO STAY ON THE SCREEN AT ALL TIMES. WTF?

After I told him that I was surprised they put this thing through R&D and were happy with it enough to sell it to the consumer, I kindly hung up telling him I'm getting an eclipse unit now.

Eff you pioneer.

So I just got off the phone with Pioneer relaying the problems i'm having with the unit. I told him ever since the firmware update it has been nothing but problems. The main examples I gave were the touch screen being on a delay, my phone not staying connected, and also dropping my ipod.

 

He said that the firmware wouldn't have caused any of these to all of a sudden start occuring. He recommended to reinstall the software on the ipod. Yeah, right.

 

Next, I told him that I got rid of a Z2 to get this unit becuase I thought I was getting the superior unit. He informed me that the F series is an economy unit. So I questioned, "Why then disnt you put the higher resolution and nicer user interface on the the new Z3?" His response: "It won't fit on the screen. I don't know if you knew this but the Z has a different size screen." No shit.

 

And lastly, the one thing that just made me realize they really let this get out of hand, are the 2 greenish blue squares for the route that never go away. He said they were intentional and they ARE MEANT TO STAY ON THE SCREEN AT ALL TIMES. WTF?

 

After I told him that I was surprised they put this thing through R&D and were happy with it enough to sell it to the consumer, I kindly hung up telling him I'm getting an eclipse unit now.

 

Eff you pioneer.

Wow... so I am not the only one who feels like this.

Folks... complain to your attorney general.... that will put a bug in their ass.... make them think twice before releasing a poor unit... call the CEO and complain...but this forum is doing nothing for anyone... but a venting of many pissed off people...

xxrequiemxx, it all about what youre looking for out of your unit. im sure by now you've read all the bad things about the f series, and im sure youve read what was fixed post update, so it doesnt matter what everyone else thinks of it, you should be abe to decide yourself if it's worth it based on what works good and what doesnt work good.