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Please Help. Best Buy Bad Wiring????

By tj_06_Z28 · Oct 21, 2008in Hacks/Mods💬 19 posts👁️ 4,244 views
Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 02:19 UTC#1

Hey Guys.

 

I have been reading the post on here for a few days. I just got a D3 and had the guys at best buy install it. I ask them to do the bypass and they said "They might" so I assumed that meant they would.

 

After the install I think they have done something wrong. When the car is in park none of the features work... as if the car is moving. When I push in the parking brake, all the features become available. This seems totally wrong to me. It would not bother me that much but when I start rolling the car door bell rings so much, because the parking break is engaged, that I cant even hear the dvd. This totally defeats the purpose of the bypass Does anyone know what they did wrong? And how to fix it?

 

I think what they did is way wrong because I can’t even watch a DVD without the parking break engaged even if I’m stopped and in park???

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 02:31 UTC#2

that would be the legal/proper method of installation... audio should still work though...

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 02:34 UTC#3

that would be the legal/proper method of installation... audio should still work though...

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 02:42 UTC#4

They installed it correctly, and didnt bypass it. Good luck getting a big name place to bypass it for you, cause they wont.

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 02:55 UTC#5

Thank you for responding....

 

 

If this is the correct way to install it, why are all the features blocked out when I am stopped and in park???

 

All nav systems work when the car is stopped and/or in park. This is just the opposite. I have to push in the parking break any time I want to input an address. I can input the address driving or stopped as long as the parking break is in, but I know that if this thing was installed correctly, I should not have to push in the parking break every time they I enter an address in the nav menu????

 

When I drop below 15mph or stop my features should come back right???? because mine doest not…

 

Thanks Again

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 03:07 UTC#6

its the f700bt that is speed limited... your e-brake has to be on to control features such as adding address in the D3... when you say that you cant change settings while in park... do you also have the e-brake on?

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 03:33 UTC#7

Thanks again for the reply.

 

When I am in park and the parking break is off, nothing works. Everything is blacked out.

 

Then when I am in park and apply the parking break all the featured become available. I can not do anything with this unit unless the parking break is on.

 

I think they tried to do the bypass but didn’t do something right, just my thoughts.

 

Thanks

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 13:47 UTC#8

No, they did not do anything wrong. This is exactly how the unit is meant to work, along with pretty much every other nav/DVD unit on the market. Video, navigation functions, etc. are not available to use unless the parking brake is engaged because of legal reasons. Yes, if every automobile on the market had an automatic transmission they could possibly make it so it looks for the PARK signal from the transmission, but cars are also available with manual transmissions, which do not have PARK like automatics do. So the parking brake switch has to be used.

 

Again, they did absolutely nothing wrong, this is exactly how the unit is supposed to perform when installed correctly. If you do not want this to happen you will need to bypass the unit. Instructions for doing that are in one of the 3 or 4 sticky topics at the top of this board.

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 15:49 UTC#9

Wow!! Thank you for the information. That makes since.

 

This is the 1st aftermarket nav system I have owned. I have had 4 different vehicles that all have factory nav systems, and I have never had to push in the parking break to make anything work. All of the others, 3 GM vehicles and 1 Dodge vehicle, started working as soon as the vehicle came to a stop or was in park. Thank you for the information. I will work on the bypass now.

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 16:46 UTC#10
Wow!! Thank you for the information. That makes since.

 

This is the 1st aftermarket nav system I have owned. I have had 4 different vehicles that all have factory nav systems, and I have never had to push in the parking break to make anything work. All of the others, 3 GM vehicles and 1 Dodge vehicle, started working as soon as the vehicle came to a stop or was in park. Thank you for the information. I will work on the bypass now.

 

That is because the radio was adapted to work like that. If Pioneer sold a separate unit for every make, model, and transmission then they could do that but since they have a few models that will work in a variety of cars they can not do that

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 16:59 UTC#11

the bypass for the D3 is not hard to do, you just have to get the radio out... there's tutorials on the forum about this...

 

and hifisi is right, the fact that it is in park means nothing. the e-brake has to be up, it's the only way for the radio to "notice."

 

 

and it's not true that installers wont do the bypass. you gotta sweet talk them... and pay them.

Posted Oct 21, 2008 · 18:43 UTC#12
the bypass for the D3 is not hard to do, you just have to get the radio out... there's tutorials on the forum about this...

 

and hifisi is right, the fact that it is in park means nothing. the e-brake has to be up, it's the only way for the radio to "notice."

 

 

and it's not true that installers wont do the bypass. you gotta sweet talk them... and pay them.

 

In general though most installers that work at places like Worst Buy and what not will not do the bypass for you

Posted Oct 22, 2008 · 17:07 UTC#13

We should all be glad that they don't use the VSS wire for this function or we would be screwed on the D3, since tou can't really hack the software. Do the bypass and forget about it.

Posted Oct 22, 2008 · 20:58 UTC#14
the bypass for the D3 is not hard to do, you just have to get the radio out... there's tutorials on the forum about this...

 

and hifisi is right, the fact that it is in park means nothing. the e-brake has to be up, it's the only way for the radio to "notice."

 

 

and it's not true that installers wont do the bypass. you gotta sweet talk them... and pay them.

 

In general though most installers that work at places like Worst Buy and what not will not do the bypass for you

 

They will however...if you talk them into just doing the install as a "sidejob."

Through him a few bucks and it's done with.

Posted Oct 23, 2008 · 04:40 UTC#15

As a higher up in Best Buy... I will tell you that most of the techs will not bypass the system for you at the store. On that note.. If you had them install the unit and they did not run the bypass the will most likely cancel the warrenty on there work performed. Not sure what area you are from or what Best Buy did the work but that is a company wide policy.

 

Doing the bypass yourself is easy and takes 5 min of your time to complete. R6-RIDER "No Comment to side job" : )

Posted Oct 23, 2008 · 19:32 UTC#16
8) Yea you know you've done many of those. Best Buy makes enough money throughout the day..the little guy needs a bit more pay for the week. It's all good.
Posted Oct 27, 2008 · 01:39 UTC#17

I was just wondering what will happen if I only ground the parking break wire and not the mute wire?

 

Thanks

Posted Oct 27, 2008 · 02:53 UTC#18
I was just wondering what will happen if I only ground the parking break wire and not the mute wire?

 

Thanks

Nothing will happen. The unit will not be bypassed if you don't do both of the required steps.
Posted Oct 27, 2008 · 23:34 UTC#19

OK I think I have figured out what the problem is. The wiring harness they used does not have the rca wires. This was installed in a 04 Escalade with the factory Bose system, and there are no rca wires to use. With that said, there’s not anyway to bypass the wiring harness without the rcas??? Is there?