Hey guys... Well my D2 just died and I am looking at buying an F series unit for my truck.
I see that there is 2 with DVD:
F90BT
F900BT
the 90 is listed as a Premier InDash.
What are the major differences between these units?
Both have Blue Tooth built in... So what extra's do I get?
I currently have XM Radio with my D2 and want to make sure that I have that with my new unit.
Any help would be great before I make this purchase.
Whit
The 90 comes with a ipod cable, 4v preouts, 2 year warranty and both of them need a xm adapter.
So basically I am getting an IPOD adapter with the Prem.
Other then that is it worth it?
I do have an ipod so I guess it would be very handy...
How does the mpas work? do I run disks and do I have to buy new maps each year?
Whit
Yeah but when i bought i got the 90 for just as cheap as the 900. There is a map and xm logo update that is set to go on sale in april. If your in to the torrents you might be able to get if for free 
with the F90 you get 4v preouts, and the 900bt you get 2.2 volt preouts, this means you get a better sound with the F90.
This is what i understand from it, it sends more power thus a better sound, i havnt personaly heard the diffrence, but i will be getting the F90, since i want the Ipod cable anyway, and more power
I could be wrong..but I THINK the extra rca pre out voltage from the F90 only makes a difference if you are using an aftermarket amp in your application. If you are using a wiring harness to simply hook up the F90 to your stock system, there will be no difference in sound between the F90 and F900..
YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB!!! stop saying its worth it just because of the ipod cable!!! DUDE THEIR ONLY $13 !!!!!! so dont base your purchase on that AND preouts .....ASK YOURSELF IF U NEED 4 PREOUTS(MOST PEOPLE WITH GOOD SYSTEMS ONLY NEED 2)!!! get your facts straight 
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I wonder how many times the same topic and question will be asked, over and over and over and over.
I swear use the search button in the upper left corner, I bet you find a few dozen times this stuff was asked since june.
I think the point is, contribute to this forum like its some sort of tech manual or do it yourself guide, if the guide repeats the same thing over and over again, and no one ever reads what was written, its starts to get a little redundant doesn't it?
Just my two cents, 4 volt pre outs, warranty and ipod cable is all the difference is between the 90 and the 900.
YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB!!! stop saying its worth it just because of the ipod cable!!! DUDE THEIR ONLY $13 !!!!!! so dont base your purchase on that AND preouts .....ASK YOURSELF IF U NEED 4 PREOUTS(MOST PEOPLE WITH GOOD SYSTEMS ONLY NEED 2)!!! get your facts straight
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Wow...heed your own advice. The f90 has 4v (VOLT) pre-amp outs which is a cleaner sound when running an amplifier. The f900 has 2.2v (VOLT) pre-amp outs. Both have 3 sets, front, rear and sub, controllable from the head unit. The only difference I saw when comparing them before I bought was the iPod cable, and the f900 still gives you nav while you're watching a movie, but the f90 doesn't. And instead of sending someone to Ebay, maybe give them a helpful link that compares both models side by side...
Since when are there any differences in movie watching between 900 and 90?
People who want a real decent audio system, need at least 2 sets of line level preouts.
And Pioneer's own page lists differences quite well...
the f900 still gives you nav while you're watching a movie, but the f90 doesn't
Not true. On my F90 I just had 'Stevie Ray Vaughn: Live at the El Mocambo' playing on DVD while the navigation was telling me how to get to my destination. The navi attenuates the DVD sound and speaks over it.
YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB!!! stop saying its worth it just because of the ipod cable!!! DUDE THEIR ONLY $13 !!!!!! so dont base your purchase on that AND preouts .....ASK YOURSELF IF U NEED 4 PREOUTS(MOST PEOPLE WITH GOOD SYSTEMS ONLY NEED 2)!!! get your facts straight
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120343655449
Wow...heed your own advice. The f90 has 4v (VOLT) pre-amp outs which is a cleaner sound when running an amplifier. The f900 has 2.2v (VOLT) pre-amp outs. Both have 3 sets, front, rear and sub, controllable from the head unit. The only difference I saw when comparing them before I bought was the iPod cable, and the f900 still gives you nav while you're watching a movie, but the f90 doesn't. And instead of sending someone to Ebay, maybe give them a helpful link that compares both models side by side...
plus (and i could be wrong) i BELIEVE that cable won't give you full ipod/avic functionality. the cable you need is the Pioneer CD-IU230V which i have not seen under 45 bucks.
you mean this one.....$27 http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-CD-IU230V-Direct-AVIC-F900BT-AVIC-F700BT/dp/B0017PGTF2
ill ask the board what the differences are
Since when are there any differences in movie watching between 900 and 90?
People who want a real decent audio system, need at least 2 sets of line level preouts.
And Pioneer's own page lists differences quite well...
Dude...why does this keep coming up. Does anyone know the difference between 4v and 2.2v pre-outs? Here's a hint...it's not a quantity...jesus.
My experience with pre volt out is I bought a head unit that had no pre volt out, had an external amp say 300 watts or something with a 12 inch sub. used it for oh say a month. I bought a new head unit with a 2v pre out, and blew the sub out within a day using the same amp. Without those pre volt out, the amp alone did not have enough power to blow the sub out.
The pre volt outs provide a ton more power and the amp further steps it up. You can basically take an amp, double the voltage out of the head unit and increase the power in the amp, by alot. Enough to destroy subs.
So 2v vs 4v, you will prob need less gain on the amp using the same wattage to get the same results.
Thats it, now the question is, is it worth it for the upgrade? No its prob not.
Also regarding the ipod cable, go for the apple composite cable instead, same exact thing, much better build quality and standards. A single unified cable instead of the black split cable right at the head with shrink wrap. Also the head connector itself seems a lot better build quality, the pioneer cable I had you can actually see how cheap the quality is, its light and day. And they are the same price, imagine that.
Yeah but when i bought i got the 90 for just as cheap as the 900. There is a map and xm logo update that is set to go on sale in april. If your in to the torrents you might be able to get if for free
there is a map update? could you please explain?
Yeah but when i bought i got the 90 for just as cheap as the 900. There is a map and xm logo update that is set to go on sale in april. If your in to the torrents you might be able to get if for freethere is a map update? could you please explain?
At some point in the future, perhaps April the company who makes these map put out updates, which pioneer then sells on its website for a price.
At around that same point, perhaps someone will place a copy of the map update online, where you can download it via torrent that you will find on piratebay.org or something.
Typical map updates are around 120 dollars, and im guessing will be mailed out officially via an sd card.
damn. i dont really feel like dropping $120+. i could imagine there isnt TOO much change in the roads that can happen. especially since im local 99.9% of the time
damn. i dont really feel like dropping $120+. i could imagine there isnt TOO much change in the roads that can happen. especially since im local 99.9% of the time
Then use bit torrent to download it for free.
Unless you also are the type to still go out and purchase music CD's and movie DVD's? 
Our local model F900BT comes with the ipod cable in the box, even though it doesn't list it on the outside anywhere.