ok i have got my choices down to these 2 units i really like the z3 but i really cant find to much info out or see any videos on it youtube normaly has a crap load of videos on units but the z3 is one unit that dosent have any the UI kinda looks the same on both units (crapy) but all the things you can do kinda makes that all go away. and iv heard alot of good and bad things about the dnx8120. what would you guys pick

8120. Z-series hasn't had a hardware update in 3 years so it has old bluetooth and ipod connections. Kenwood isn't great either but at least it works with newer phones and ipods

lol so maby i should get the f90bt ? lol iv heard so many bad things about it then again i hear good things to

The F-series is cool if you are patient with the 40 second bootup...and you have music during most of that time. I would take the F over the 8120 if it had a bigger screen

I don't see why they don't take advantage of using a 7 inch LCD for the F-series.

Price I assume. Hopefully at CES they show a replacement for the Z w/ a bigger screen

I don't see why they don't take advantage of using a 7 inch LCD for the F-series.

should i get the kenwood KCA-iP300V or should i get5 another brand becouse i thought i read somehwere that there is another cable thats better to get.