I've seen a few posts on this board indicating that the Avic F does NOT pause music/ipod when making/receiving bluetooth calls. Is that correct? Does that apply to the latest firmware update also?

That is correct,

And yes it applies to 2.0

Thanks for the answer. Makes it a non-starter for me. That's a shame, because it looks like the best in every other way.

If that is the only reason you arent gonna buy one personally that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard.

I've heard stupider, at least now.

If I'm dropping big bucks on a nav system, it better do everything I want. Pioneer dropped the ball on this feature (even after a firmware update, apparently), so they don't get my money. I'll live without Nav until someone makes a good product.

Audio does mute for an incoming call, correct?

Audio does mute for an incoming call, correct?

yes

I've heard stupider, at least now.

 

If I'm dropping big bucks on a nav system, it better do everything I want. Pioneer dropped the ball on this feature (even after a firmware update, apparently), so they don't get my money. I'll live without Nav until someone makes a good product.

I don't see it as "dropping the ball" for many users it really doesn't matter, to you it does, thus this would not be the best unit for you to purchase.

Did you know that you can pause the Ipod before you make a call???? When you receive a call you can also REWIND the Ipod after the call... If it's really that impossible for you to do this, then this unit is definitely not for YOU. If you get the F700 your really not spending BIG BUCKS. You'll never get an all in one unit like this for under $350.00. (Amazon)

I do not think any company makes a Nav unit with all the options one person could ever want. If you really are willing to wait until there is the perfect Nav unit out there I guess you will be waiting a long time.

Do I wish the ipod would pause during a phone call, sure but it was not a show stopper for me.

I don't see it as "dropping the ball" for many users it really doesn't matter, to you it does, thus this would not be the best unit for you to purchase.

You are probably right that it does not matter for many users. But I think there is an objectively right and wrong way of doing this. Muting the ipod is always worse than pausing on an incoming call. So in that sense they did drop the ball. There are other Pioneer decks which handle incoming calls correctly.

Did you know that you can pause the Ipod before you make a call???? When you receive a call you can also REWIND the Ipod after the call... If it's really that impossible for you to do this, then this unit is definitely not for YOU. If you get the F700 your really not spending BIG BUCKS. You'll never get an all in one unit like this for under $350.00. (Amazon)

Never is a long time, isn't it. I'm sure someone will come out with something. Or maybe Pioneer will fix the AVIC so it implements this correctly.

Either I could muck around with a rewind button trying to find where the audiobook left off after a lengthy call....or I could just keep the HU I have right now, which does the right thing and pauses it.

Like I said, I'll wait until I get the features I want before I buy something. Just because *you* don't need a feature, doesn't mean that the feature is useless for everyone. I'm sure there are others who would want this particular feature too.

i dont want to start a fight or anything but

i have about 6000 songs in my library

which i have listened to them about a 100 times each

so for me i am not missing anything if the song doesnt pause

i wouldnt bother me if i missed the next three songs

i will just push skip back if i want to hear the song again

its not like its the last and only time you will hear the song

look guys! people have different preferences, what you like might not be what he like. in this case if this guy does not want to get the unit because of that lacking feature its his choice, its not wrong, nor is it stupid.

i dont want to start a fight or anything but

i have about 6000 songs in my library

which i have listened to them about a 100 times each

so for me i am not missing anything if the song doesnt pause

i wouldnt bother me if i missed the next three songs

i will just push skip back if i want to hear the song again

its not like its the last and only time you will hear the song

Yes, fine for songs. But not for audiobooks or podcasts. A podcast might be two hours long, without chapters. You can't just start it over if you're halfway through. If you have a 10 minute incoming phone call and the ipod doesn't pause, you have to manually rewind 10 minutes of the podcast. This would be a hassle even if I wasn't driving. And driving makes it worse: I have to keep glancing at the screen, and keep playing randomly to see where I was. As I said, pausing is really the correct way to do this--but I can understand that it doesn't matter either way to some folks. I don't think anyone actually wants it to be mute only.

If you can find a unit that does everything 100 Percent perfect then 1 this forum would probably not be here and all of us would probably would want ever unit that might be. I have been in the car audio installing and selling world for over 9 years and hand down this is one the best units out there in my opionion for the money and features it has to offer. If you are made of money you might find better but pay a hell of a lot more. Just my two cents. Maybe you can spend your 2 cents more and show us what a really indash nav unit would look like we would love to see it.. Thanks Kevin..

As I already said, I'm not looking for perfection. I'm looking for a specific set of very reasonable features. Pause on incoming call is one of them. If you listened to podcasts or audiobooks, you would probably feel the same way. Even on music, I much prefer the correct behavior (though it's not as big a deal with 5 minute music tracks).

The Avic F meets most of my feature set, unlike a lot of other decks. So that's why I was interested in it.

My iPhone pauses when I get a call.

Granted, my 60 gig iPod might not, pause, but I'm OK with that.

I don't think this is a deal breaker for such a great unit.

Yeah, I was thinking about the podcasts, or sermons, or self help stuff... You really do want to pause it.

Is there no way to do this when you are on a call? I haven't had my system long enough to know every feature inside and out, but once you're on a call, are you completely STUCK on that call and unable to do anything else?

Can you reach down and hit pause on the iPod?

I agree with kkant on waiting for what you want. Personally, I wanted RDS, built-in HD tuner, DVD, NON-motorized screen, GPS, bluetooth, CDText, in-dash multi CD/DVD changer, SAT radio ready at least, dual-zone, rear monitor outputs, sub outputs, and probably a few other things that I'm forgetting. But when I found out that I could get almost all of this in this thing for less than $600? I signed up, and I love it.

Is there no way to do this when you are on a call? I haven't had my system long enough to know every feature inside and out, but once you're on a call, are you completely STUCK on that call and unable to do anything else?

That's a good question, I'd like to know as well. Also, how many button presses does it take to do this, while on a call?

If you can easily pause the Avic's touchscreen while a call is in progress, then I think this just might make the cut for me. Still, I wish they had done this feature correctly in the first place.

You cant do anything while on a call but control call volume and hang up. All other controls are disabled while on a call. It sucks, but for now thats the way it is.

Stupid question probably, but has anyone tried contacting Pioneer directly to see about having these features added to future firmware updates? If so, how has Pioneer responded to the user feedback?

That's a good question. Anyone know a good way to contact Pioneer with suggestions?