I recently ordered a Pioneer Premier AVIC-F90BT for my 2006 Ford Mustang GT which has the stock Shaker 500 system still in it. I have been doing some research on what wiring harnesses and adapters I may need to do the install and have found conflicting information. Crutchfield says I need the PAC C2R-FRD1. One local install shop agrees with them. Another local install shop says I don't need it. Some web forum posts say I need the Metra 70-5521. Other posts say I need the Metra 70-5511. Some say I need a RCA Y adapter. My local install shops say the F90BT does not support Ford's Volume Speed Sensing feature, yet I've found posts that say it does. I don't know who to believe. I want to do this myself, so here are my requirements.

1. Retain the Ford Accessory Delay feature where the F90BT will stay on for up to 10 minutes or until a door is opened.

2. Retain the Ford Volume Speed Sensing feature where the F90BT automatically increases its volume as the vehicle increases speed. This is not important, but is nice because you get quite a bit of engine and road noise inside a Mustang GT and I don't want to have to keep raising and lowering the volume as I speed up and slow down in traffic.

3. No "pop" sound when the F90BT is powered on.

4. All of the features in the F90BT function fully.

I will not be replacing the stock speakers or amps at this time. What wiring harness(es) and/or adapters will I need to install the F90BT in my 2006 Ford Mustang GT while getting all of the things I listed above?

You might want to look into a mustang/ford forum for those questions. Most of the time they will be stickied. I took a quick look on the metra site and they have a ton of ford harnesses.

70-5521 is what I had to use in my 06 mustang with the shaker 1000 system in it. The place that installed it originally tried the 70-5511 but that wasn't even close to the right connection.

I replied to your question on the AFM Forums.

http://www.mustangforums.com/forum/2005 ... 900bt.html

read in full, very helpful.

I own an 07 Mustang with Shaker 500. I followed the instructions located at http://forums.stangnet.com/736028-pioneer-avic-d3-installation-write-up.html. It's for the D3 but the wiring is the same. I first installed the FH-P800BT and have recently upgraded to the F700. I used the Metra # 70-5521 harness since the PAC harness was not available at the time. I've read that the PAC harness is easier and has the 5V fix built in. It's significantly more expensive of course.

To your questions:

Delay Feature: Will work fine. The delay is controlled in the power circuitry and is not a function of the radio.

Pop Sound: Wire in the 5V regulator as discussed at stangnet or use the PAC harness.

Variable Speed Sensor: My F700 doesn't use the wire so can't really help. I have read where users have tapped into the fuse box by the passenger footwell for the VSS connection. The PAC harness includes a VSS output wire but I don't know if this does the job or not. You'll have to research this some more.

The only other minor issue to consider is the ILL wire. Our Mustangs do not have a dimmer wire in the factory harness. You'll need to tap into a wire behind the headlight switch. (Search stangnet and you'll find a several posts related to the ILL wire.) Again, the PAC harness has an ILL wire built-in so may solve the problem.

I would definitely research the PAC harness if convenience an important factor. It may be a one-stop-shop and avoid some work arounds. It looks nice but is pricey.

Best of luck. Take your time and you'll be fine.

Sell the Blue Oval and get a quieter car like a Hyundai

Sell the Blue Oval and get a quieter car like a Hyundai

Great idea. I love rice burners.

Sell the Blue Oval and get a quieter car like a Hyundai

you can have my blue oval when you pry it from my cold dead hands

Sell the Blue Oval and get a quieter car like a Hyundai

 

you can have my blue oval when you pry it from my cold dead hands

We also prefer our cars have a little character and even be fun. Unlike anything from Asia.

Sell the Blue Oval and get a quieter car like a Hyundai

 

you can have my blue oval when you pry it from my cold dead hands

 

We also prefer our cars have a little character and even be fun. Unlike anything from Asia.

I heard GT-R has plenty character. And outruns any Ford.

But everyone knows that real cars come from Germany. After all they invented them.

I heard GT-R has plenty character. And outruns any Ford.

 

But everyone knows that real cars come from Germany. After all they invented them.

Any ford? ...Super Snake?... Ford GT?....... oh yeh, nissan doesnt even know what a super car is

and while i was waiting for my tires to get mounted eariler this week, i was reading the motor trend where the new CTS-V spanks the new M5 and cost 30K less

I heard GT-R has plenty character. And outruns any Ford.

 

But everyone knows that real cars come from Germany. After all they invented them.

 

Any ford? ...Super Snake?... Ford GT?....... oh yeh, nissan doesnt even know what a super car is

 

and while i was waiting for my tires to get mounted eariler this week, i was reading the motor trend where the new CTS-V spanks the new M5 and cost 30K less

Well, short of the 500 or whatever it was called, GT-R will, stock for stock. And ofg course it will eat it alive in the event you actually need to do things like... turning and stuff Although some Fords are pretty quick going straight.

Of course pretty much any car can be made to go faster than any other car. The question is whether you really want to.

 

Well, short of the 500 or whatever it was called, GT-R will, stock for stock. And ofg course it will eat it alive in the event you actually need to do things like... turning and stuff Although some Fords are pretty quick going straight.

 

Of course pretty much any car can be made to go faster than any other car. The question is whether you really want to.

sure it will. just go ahead and use launch mode and smoke the trans. it voids the warranty if you use launch mode, but thats the only way to make that car fast. if you were to run the gtr against a mustang gt (s197) with a cold air intake and tuner, without using launch mode on the gtr so you dont have to fork over $20k for a trans, it would be a bad day for the folks at nissan.

and the gtr costs over $70,000. i paid less than 25k for my GT brand new and 600 for the CAI/tuner package. thats a pretty good deal compared to the gtr.

and i heard they are programming the newer gtr's to not have launch mode since they have so many problems with it. bummer for their customers.

I read somewhere that it is better to get the f900bt if you want to use the stock shaker system because the 4V pre out of the f90bt is too high for the stock amps.

Is that true?

I read somewhere that it is better to get the f900bt if you want to use the stock shaker system because the 4V pre out of the f90bt is too high for the stock amps.

Is that true?

I don't have a definative answer for that, but I was told the same thing by a rep at Crutchfield about the stock amp in my Jeep. That's why I opted for the F900BT over the F90BT.

This is absolutely not true. Mine work fine. They hit alot harder than with the Shaker installed but that's a good thing. I did lower the gain on the sub out to a 0 or a -1, but they sound much better now. This shouldn't even affect a seperate sub amp because you could always just turn the gains up a little bit to compensate for the lower setting on the head unit.

I just replaced the FH-P800BT in my 2006 Mustang GT, (factory was Shaker 500) with a Z110BT and they both sound great, no issues with the factory amp. I used a Metra harness (don't remember which one) and installed the 5V regulator to get rid of the "POP" sound, I just need to hook up the VSS wire now as soon as I check stangnet to figure out where that wire is....

allow me to save you the trip

VSS - dark blue w/ yellow stripe @ PCM, top plug, pin 3

the PCM is in the front passenger side of the engine compartment

and that is bullsh!t about 4v preouts being too strong, the stronger the preouts, the stronger the signal, the clearer the sound

Thanks! Any suggestions for the dimmer wire?

I agree 4V pre-outs = good sound!

all i can find is the negitive parking lights wire which is black/green at the switch, since it is a negitive wire(and the pioneeer need positive)you would have to use a relay to switch the polarity to positive

most of fords new car use negitive trigger so you cant even run a wire to the headlights or parking lights themselfs. you might be able to find a positive signal at a light on the dash maybe the ash tray (i dont know if there is a light in your ash tray but that where i had to run the wire to in my lincoln)

hmmm, no ashtray in the Mustang, I'll have to take a look on Stangnet, I thought I saw something posted there,

Thanks for your response though!

wwwwhhhhhhaaaattttt, no ash tray, where do you keep you change

wwwwhhhhhhaaaattttt, no ash tray, where do you keep you change

In the change holder in the console, it has slots for quarters, dimes and nickels. Ashtray in a Mustang is optional and just fits in one of the cupholders, I have one for my 99 Mustang.

yea that little black rectangle thing, mine had one too until i left it setting at the coin machine in a car wash. LOL

and the ever so creative $35 optional"smokers package" AKA cup holder ash tray and a cig lighter for the power port. i thought they where only putting those things in the little cars like escorts.

have you checked out Stangnet yet? i'm interested in seeing if there is an easier solution then the relay.