I know there is alot of people pushing the D2 right now but who is by far the cheapest for new not referb?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0035646030

$699.98 shipped. Awesome, and very fast shipping.

I just got mine here very fast ship best price I've seen. They are now listing it at $721.00 call them and they will sell it $679.00

Just make sure that they are an authorized Pioneer dealer, for warranty's sake.

the link i posted last time was great. ebay as well, but got it for $658 shipped. item arrived weds, and i got installed, looks/works great

So if I buy off eBay and need to RMA it within the 1st year, am I not covered by Pioneer Warranty services?

vijaja said:

So if I buy off eBay and need to RMA it within the 1st year, am I not covered by Pioneer Warranty services?

probably not b/c u have no real receipt. and they'll claim there's otherwise no proof you bought it "new" despite what seller wrote in his auction. risk u take for getting a $700 discount!

probably no? uhh definitly not! Pioneer does NOT warranty Ebay auctions. You may or may not have recourse with the ebay seller but thats the gamble your taking.

If you look at Amazon, they have it for like $700 which isn't bad at all.

vijaja said:

If you look at Amazon, they have it for like $700 which isn't bad at all.

I just looked at that, and it appears that the unit is being sold by Etronics (using Amazon's store front). I checked Pioneer's authorized reseller list, and I don't see Etronics on there. Just a warning for those who are looking for warranties.

Umm getting it from a certified Pioneer store will cost you $1200 and to top it off they will overcharge you for installtion or any accessories you may need. I've seen avic-d2's go as cheap as $600 if your patient and bid last minute on no reserve auctions, so even if it did break down on you, the cost to fix it would be much less then $300 and even with the cost to replace it you'd still be basically breaking even. Then the warranty is only one year and pioneer might tell you that you caused the damage and tell you to suck it.

Yeah or you can get a 3 year extended warranty thrown in on the deal from a authorized dealer for 49 bucks. Then it's an all around win win situation. Just got a d2, ipod, sirius hook up, 3 year warranty for 950. Have a good day.

what are you mad? 1200 from a auth pioneer retailer? maybe circumcity or bogusbuy but there are other dealers out there thatll do it for much less and still have a warranty. Personally, it may be bad to say but I hope each and ever ebay auction turns out bad for the avics. ebay is a scam as it is, let alone the clowns that try to save a buck. mom always said "you get what you pay for" so try it like its been said and get if for 600 and if it breaks fix it for 300 and toss in some of your own time and energy and hopfully you wont be anywhere near worth just doing it right from the get go.

tillithz said:

Personally, it may be bad to say but I hope each and ever ebay auction turns out bad for the avics. ebay is a scam as it is, let alone the clowns that try to save a buck.

This is an unfair and completely inaccurate statement. While there are certainly plenty of scammers on Ebay, there are also plenty of real people auctioning real things. Sure, almost all of them are unauthorized resellers and thus you won't have a factory warranty, but so what? Some people are okay with that and are willing to take the risk. Why wish all those people ill will? There are also plenty of honest people selling used equipment on Ebay (myself included), so is selling and buying second-hand AVICs on Ebay also a scam? There is no warranty on a second-hand item, either, but does that make it a scam?

I agree to a point, but i do have ill will towards people who knowingly purchase AVICs off of eBay with no manufacturer warranty, then when something goes wrong, get upset that Pioneer won't cover it.

yep, ebay has gathered the scam rep on its own, its nothing new that I made up. And since there is more scams then not, in my experience, that is why the "ill will". Use ebay if you like, but if and when you get screwed, do not come complain in ear shot of me, cuz if i hear it, i will laugh and tell you I told you so.

paisannyc exactly, or even the people who think they are getting such a great deal, and are blind to the obvious fact that there is something amiss with such a low ball price. Hell, they have d2's for $200 on ebay. For those that say ebay is soooo great, go ahead and buy that 200 dollar d2 and lets see just how you make out... but you wont not cuz you dont have the money or dont need the d2, but because you have more sense then that and know that its a scam.

thats my 2 cents

While there are certainly a fair share of scammers on eBay, its not only unfair, but blatantly WRONG to say that there are more scammers than legit auctions.

eBay is an extremely safe place to shop as long as you have some common sense. You're not going to get a brand new $1200 unit for $200. If you think you are, then maybe you need to get scammed to learn something for the future.

However, to those who buy legit auctions and get the D2s for $600-700 bucks, I have no ill will. I hope that their units never break and you shouldn't wish that they do break. I agree that they shouldn't complain if Pioneer won't cover the warranty, but you shouldn't hope that their unit breaks; thats just not right.

The people who buy the AVICs on eBay are taking a chance since they should know Pioneer won't cover their warranties. They got a discount for taking that chance, a chance any of us are able to take if we want the same discount.

eBay isn't a bad place at all and its not fair to label everyone who sells on eBay as scammers. I know a lot of good people who do business on eBay; a lot more good people than I do scammers.


Oh and as I write this the Cardinals just wrapped up their World Series win. Congrats to them even though I'm a diehard Yankee fan. Its nice to see those damn Tigers lose for once :twisted:

and ? so? Theres plenty of posts on the net let alone here about people getting something they didnt think was the product from their ebay auction, and bitchin about it.... Like I said, my experience has been MUCH less then positive with ebay. MY EXPERIENCE has shown me far MORE scammers then not. You are entitled to your own opinion. Theres plenty who agree with me and who dont. dont let it bother you though cuz in the end things will be what they will be.

heres one, granted not on ebay, but still http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16039#16039

Lets see purchased my D2 @ Ebay Store on ebay! Full warranty at resonable $700 price. Geez who would have guessed that Ebay was so legit. If you purchase Pioneer equipment from an actually ebay store wholesaler you still get full warranty privleges. Email Pioneer straight from the horses mouth! Your ebay transaction number is your reciept (proof of purchase). If you buy it from some guy on ebay that bought a D2 then decided to sell it, NO! warranty. (Duh) Yeah there are scammers on ebay, $200 wow sounds too good to be true! Thats why you buy from a person who accepts Paypal. Paypal will protect you up to $10,000 on purchases. Being that I started this thread let me end it at saying Thank you all for your help!!

Your right, ebay has some shady people who will rip you off- I have been taken 2 times, the first one for 25.00 dollars, the second time for 300.00, I worked with PP, got my money back, was able to keep the product and then sold and made 200 more off that. I have purchased over 150 items and some of them high dollar and been screwed 2 times. I know what to look for and what not to look for. I'm not afraid of the place and if you have had more bad than good, then maybe its not so much ebay but what your doing? the low dollar price on high end electronics are so easy to see if there is a scam or not, if your not smart enough to understand or pick that up, then you should be burned.

btw - the 300.00 item was from a reputable dealer, we emailed I had proof in the item they said would work, it didn't they didn't want to work an exhange out and I worked with PP and got the money, product and then more money. So you can win if you do it right.

Here's a thought, I buy a D1/2 through a dealer, 1 year warranty and costs me say 1100, the unit works for 2 years and dies, will pioneer fix it then? sure but it will cost me. Now I buy a unit from ebay for 700, runs for 2 years and dies, will Pioneer fix it, sure same deal at that point they don't care about who you bought it from, you pay for it, I just saved 500+ tax and got a product that worked fine for that amount of time and am in no worse situation. Now your right, it can die in 2 months and I'm screwed its a chance we take at some point on everything we do -

I also read the link about the product posted in another area, first clue was no rating? I would have ran right there -

pontiacpassion said:

Lets see purchased my D2 @ Ebay Store on ebay! Full warranty at resonable $700 price. Geez who would have guessed that Ebay was so legit. If you purchase Pioneer equipment from an actually ebay store wholesaler you still get full warranty privleges. Email Pioneer straight from the horses mouth! Your ebay transaction number is your reciept (proof of purchase).

Good luck with the warranty. Sounds like you got a response from a rep who has no idea what they were talking about. Simply because an item is new in box does not make the seller an authorized dealer! I hope you never have to find out the fate of authorized warranty service!

exactly paisannyc, Ill make you a receipt right now, heck I can make a dozen, that isnt what the warranty is. "proof of purchase" is NOT warranty, its just that proof you purchased it. Now, an authorized dealer is another story, and well ebay isnt one of those, your welcome to call pioneer and ask them about ebay, they will happily explain to you that their authorized dealers do NOT sell on ebay. so uhh good luck on that one. Hope you dont have to use it. AND it sounds like ( I could be wrong ) that your ebay seller has duped you into thinking something that isnt true.. hence the "scam" accusation earlier.

Each is entitled to their own opinions, as for me and mine, I have had far more dealings with scam artists then legit on ebay, so thats why it gets the bad rap with me. the tools at your disposal are garbage... ratings... feedback... paypal policies... it is almost never ending with the bs. Even people who seemingly arent intending to deliver something different then what you purchase often do anyways.. A friend just bought a video card through ebay, said it was brand new.. he got it saw it was used.. seller said "oh.. my son had it and must of been using it" yeah right ok. That is why ebay gets the negative light and the seller has to prove they are good , NOT the other way around where I assume they are good until I find out differently.