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Goes to startup screen... then black

By adamtaylorpcb · Apr 18, 2009in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 24 posts👁️ 7,161 views
Posted Apr 18, 2009 · 16:11 UTC#1

my F90-bt just started this after being installed for 6 months. i turn the car on and it goes to startup screen... then to black. i have to reset it several times and then after mashing some buttons i get the small rectangle in the bottom of the screen. when i finally can see the menu's all of the text isnt visible, just the icons....

 

anyone have a clue what the hell this could be?

Posted Apr 18, 2009 · 16:48 UTC#2

sounds like some data got corrupted, Do you have a (compleat) back-up of the flash disc? Ifso try restoring it back from that, if not, you might want to re-download the 2.0 update and reload that into the unit.

Posted Apr 18, 2009 · 18:22 UTC#3

how would i reload it? i put the 2.0 on my sd and put it in the unit but it dosnt have an option to do this

Posted Apr 18, 2009 · 19:48 UTC#4

Check the wiki at the top of the forum, should be able to find out there, I dunno how to reload it myself (have not had too, but its what peeps say to try on here to reload the originals of the corrupt data IF you dont have a back-up of your unit.

Posted Apr 18, 2009 · 22:48 UTC#5

How to re-flash update from SD if unit goes blank after 10-15 seconds . . Also, how to reach test mode CE screen when unit stops (10-15 seconds) before you reach the end of "loading" (in test mode) . .

 

It was a few days that I got this problem after the regular oil change - sounds crazy, but these guys did something wrong with the battery power in order to "reset" oil change warning . . .

 

There will be no problem at all if I can get Windows CE screen before unit goes blank , , , I do have backup files, software update 2 and test mode files . . . .

 

Any ideas?

Posted Apr 20, 2009 · 12:28 UTC#6

Same thing started happening to me this morning too. I just got the vehicle back after getting some warrenty service taken care of the other day. Completely stock unit, no mods, shipped with the 2.0 upgrade. Let me know if you figured out a fix before I start playing around with it.

Posted Apr 22, 2009 · 17:06 UTC#8

Just fixed mine. Somehow the backup camera was turned on, and I don't have a backup camera hooked up. Funny thing is this started after I had the car at the dealership. The tech asked me about the headunit when he told me that my car was ready and said he was thinking of buying one. I bet he was fooling around with it and turned it on...

Posted Apr 25, 2009 · 16:19 UTC#9
How to re-flash update from SD if unit goes blank after 10-15 seconds . . Also, how to reach test mode CE screen when unit stops (10-15 seconds) before you reach the end of "loading" (in test mode) . .

 

It was a few days that I got this problem after the regular oil change - sounds crazy, but these guys did something wrong with the battery power in order to "reset" oil change warning . . .

 

There will be no problem at all if I can get Windows CE screen before unit goes blank , , , I do have backup files, software update 2 and test mode files . . . .

 

Any ideas?

I have the same problem. Unit starts with logo, then black screen (also the led's are off). Unit is still on, I can hear the FAN. I already disconnected the car battery, no luck.

 

* Unable to reload firmware

* Unable to start from testmode

Posted Apr 25, 2009 · 23:39 UTC#10

I had this same problem on my F90BT, installed for two months working fine, had software bypass and speedcam mods. The other day I did an engine wash then the unit would show splash screen then shut off after 20 secs.

I suspect a power glitch of sorts caused data coruption.

I was able to do the 2.0 firmware update which seem to fix the shutting off fault, but the unit would still hang on the splash screen, some menu items worked but not all. I then was able to use testmode and reload a virgin backup copy of "my flash disk". Unit work fine after this, reloaded mods and still working. Weird people having same issues at same time?

Posted Apr 26, 2009 · 12:12 UTC#11

I got the same problem yesterday, but I've found how to see somtething after booting. When the screen come black wait 1-2 minute and press map bouton. For me I got the screen that tell me to not driving and blablabla and after I can press the menu bouton. Need to reinstall software I think.

Posted Apr 27, 2009 · 00:22 UTC#12

My F90BT is doing the same, it just started after a 6 hour trip today. Any solution yet?

Posted Apr 30, 2009 · 21:36 UTC#13

Just got off the phone with pioneer who told me that this problem occurs because the unit is bypassed, which it is. They said it would have to be wired correctly to fix the issue. I refuse to accept that. I was able to fix my unit myself. It would show the splash screen for about 10 seconds then go to a black screen. After the black screen was up for about 45 seconds i would have to press the map button and then the screen would show. Not the end of the world but annoying none the less.

 

It turns out the problem is in the backup camera setting (i have no backup camera connected). Go into settings>system settings>backup camera

 

both buttons will appear unselected. push the off button, back out of the settings screen, and try turning the car on and off. Unit should reboot normally.

 

This worked for me hope it works for you too.

Posted May 03, 2009 · 17:55 UTC#14

the post above aboslutely works.... i was playing with stuff for two weeks before tearing my dash back apart... just get into the camera settings and its true so if anyone is haveing this problem ... it is solved... thanx man 8)8)8)

Posted May 03, 2009 · 18:30 UTC#15

I have a three week old 900bt that just did the blank screen thing yesterday. I don't have the hadrware or software bypass so Pioneer is WRONG. I am going to try hitting the map button and see if I can get my unit to boot. I do know for sure that I had the backup cam disabled on my unit.

Posted May 29, 2009 · 00:42 UTC#16
How to re-flash update from SD if unit goes blank after 10-15 seconds . . Also, how to reach test mode CE screen when unit stops (10-15 seconds) before you reach the end of "loading" (in test mode) . .

 

It was a few days that I got this problem after the regular oil change - sounds crazy, but these guys did something wrong with the battery power in order to "reset" oil change warning . . .

 

There will be no problem at all if I can get Windows CE screen before unit goes blank , , , I do have backup files, software update 2 and test mode files . . . .

 

Any ideas?

 

i just changed my oil last night, hit the oil reset button. next time i turned the car on, i got this problem... very interesting...

Posted May 29, 2009 · 01:30 UTC#17

📎 Civic Si Switches.jpgHad the unit repaired for constant rebooting. Two weeks after getting it back I had the same problem as this thread and pioneer also told me it was for those that had it bypassed. I only have the software bypass done but I didn't want to loose the unit for a few weeks again so I tried the following, which worked great and is still running two weeks later. (but you need to have a back up of your original/clean flash disk)

 

- boot to test mode

- delete your entire my flash disk (only do this if you have your back up)

- replace your back up flash disk

- reboot and it should work

 

I tried this because I read in some threads that people had their units repaired and pioneer's solution was a software install. This worked for me and if it comes back I will try it again. Wish the unit wasn't so buggy (but I probably should tinker with it either).

 

Now I have a three position switch (middle switch in the pic) installed so I can ground the parking brake wire when I need to (override), have it connect to the parking brake wire if I need to have it run as advertised (like for the police or dmv), and a off position where the parking brake lead from the unit isn't connected to anything.

Posted Jun 01, 2009 · 11:34 UTC#18

just recently installed my F90BT to my 06 Dodge Ram and the unit works great, except for the back up camera. I looked throughout the forum and cannot find some one who had the same problem. When I connected my camera and started my truck the unit turned up and went directly to the reverse screen in black (because the camera was not on), but when I went to reverse the camera came on. Basically, the screen was stuck in backup mode and would not come off unless I reset the headunit and took the unit off of GND. When I went to Battery selection, the unit never switched, and now I've gone through two different wiring harnesses (one that allows for communication with the computer and one without) and both gave me the same result. I hope this was enough info to paint the picture, can some one help!

 

Does anybody know if reinstalling the Firmware would help?

Posted May 27, 2010 · 00:17 UTC#19
Just got off the phone with pioneer who told me that this problem occurs because the unit is bypassed, which it is. They said it would have to be wired correctly to fix the issue. I refuse to accept that. I was able to fix my unit myself. It would show the splash screen for about 10 seconds then go to a black screen. After the black screen was up for about 45 seconds i would have to press the map button and then the screen would show. Not the end of the world but annoying none the less.

 

It turns out the problem is in the backup camera setting (i have no backup camera connected). Go into settings>system settings>backup camera

 

both buttons will appear unselected. push the off button, back out of the settings screen, and try turning the car on and off. Unit should reboot normally.

 

This worked for me hope it works for you too.

 

Do the above before you try anything else as it will likely save you time.

 

This fixed my issues without having to go into test mode and delete the settings files. It's worth noting that deleting those files sets this setting back to the default of Off, I also had to reconfigure the color scan for the illumination lights.

Posted Jun 05, 2010 · 01:34 UTC#20

I love this forum! The backup camera thing did the trick. Just happened to me an hour ago i came right home jump on the forum and the answer was here. Best community ever!

Posted Jun 09, 2010 · 20:13 UTC#21

So what if the text doesn't show. How do I find the backup camera settings. I don't have a backup camera as well. Plus sometimes I can't a picture to show doing that map button trick

Posted Jun 10, 2010 · 16:59 UTC#22

ok so i found a resolution to my problem and heres what im going to share. so since i got the blank screen after boot. i was checking through this thread and found a partial solution. at least to get the screen to come on after bootup. thanks to a fellow member here. yes the camera switch needs to be turn off. but to get your screen to turn on first you need to press the map button a few times,as many times till you see the button on the bottom. i know you wont see the text on the button. but you should all know its that stupid warning before the map shows up. yes push it. so when ur map does show up. you can now access menu. your gonna notice the icons but no text. hopefully you remember the settings button the right corner. then go to system settings. the backup camera option is like the thrid button on the top row. your gonnna see it highlighted on the left. click it to the other button to turn it off. as soon as you do that and then startup. your screen should now boot up again like normal. but yes, no text still. alright, now go to pioneer and download the update 2.0080. so hopefully no one has done any mods or some type of update since the first one. as i have no mods nor have updated since 2.0060. the only thing i have done is a hardware bypass. one you have downloaded the update. stick the update in your sd slot of ur navi. start the car and it should start updating. let it finish. once its done. its gonna click beep this and that. dont worry. now you have to do a hard reset. thats the reset and eject button. hold on to those 2 for aleast 5 seconds. you system should reboot again. and voila...ur system is back to where it should be. this is what worked for me. again i have no mods or tweaks other than a hardware bypass. i have a f700bt for those who are wondering what system i have. i dont know if this would work for others that have mods but this is what worked for me. hope this helps others who were unclear with any previous help or post. i dont jump this forum to often unless i need a fix for my f700bt. so the info i have given is enough and clear.

Posted Jul 11, 2010 · 04:09 UTC#23

Hey I have the same problem.. however.. when my screen goes blank the message

"Caution: Image may appeared reversed"

 

ANy ideas guys?

Posted Jul 11, 2010 · 13:38 UTC#24
Hey I have the same problem.. however.. when my screen goes blank the message

"Caution: Image may appeared reversed"

 

ANy ideas guys?

 

Yeah, your reverse camera is what's being displayed.

 

Don't have one? Go to settings and turn it off.