Been reading and reading and still need a little confirmation. I'm installing the F500BT into my Subaru that already has a Pioneer AVH-P4000DVD - 4 channel amp and Pioneer Components.

Recently got in on one of the F500BT & ND-500 deals -

okay enough of all that... now my question..

If I understand correctly, Seems like the easist way to install this would be with the Parrot Quick Connect QCSub-1 tying directly into the factory harness.. but I read this for cars with factory systems...is this also true if you have an aftermarket setup?

Please point me in the right direction..

thanks in advance.

that depends. Is your new system installed using the cars original connector? Some stereos are installed by connecting the stereo wires to a plug you can buy that fits your car connector. Then your car connector is still intact. But if they cut the wires and cut the plug off the car and hard wired them, then you have a lot more work to install. Take a look at your existing wiring to see if they used a plugin connector or it is hard wired. If it is a plugin, you are right. you just need the parrot quick connector.

that depends. Is your new system installed using the cars original connector? Some stereos are installed by connecting the stereo wires to a plug you can buy that fits your car connector. Then your car connector is still intact. But if they cut the wires and cut the plug off the car and hard wired them, then you have a lot more work to install. Take a look at your existing wiring to see if they used a plugin connector or it is hard wired. If it is a plugin, you are right. you just need the parrot quick connector.

Yes the factory connector is intact. I installed the Pioneer HU with a harness/connector adaptor. Wired the HU to the adaptor and pluged directly into the factory stereo connector.

can anyone else confirm this? or have tips?

thanks

Posted this elsewhere, posted here again for you:

It isn't so hard to install really. What you need is a parrot connector. It will connect to those weird connectors on the amp and allow you to plug them into your car. What you want to find is a parrot connector for a 2001 chevy impala. I bought one from this site for a 2001 4runner. Connected it to the amp cable and plugged it right into my car and into my car stereo without cutting a single wire. That assumes that your after market radio is not hard wired to your car. If your car stereo is installed by using a plug in connector you are set. You have to verify that the original OEM connector on your car is still intact.

The parrot connector will simply go between the ISO connectors on the amp cable and make them fit your cars connector. on one end you plug it into the cars plugins and on the other end you plug the cable from your stereo into the parrot connector. That is it. done.

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Thanks for the info, but why would I want a 2001 Chevy Impala Parrot adaptor when the install in going in my 07 Subaru?

Thanks for the info, but why would I want a 2001 Chevy Impala Parrot adaptor when the install in going in my 07 Subaru?

it is a cut and paste from another forum post. I forgot about that... i should have reread it before posting. but you get the idea... sorry about the confusion.

Thanks for the info, but why would I want a 2001 Chevy Impala Parrot adaptor when the install in going in my 07 Subaru?

 

it is a cut and paste from another forum post. I forgot about that... i should have reread it before posting. but you get the idea... sorry about the confusion.

I don't think this is correct.. Using the Parrot Connector seems to be bypassing the amplifier and runing off the HU power. Going to have to tie in the speaker wires from the amp, not from the HU.

Kinda got the same problem here...i have my 4 speakers running of the HU and a subwoofer running of an external amp to the HU preamped inputs. Does anyone know how I should connect the subwoofer to the NDG500 to make it function.

Kinda got the same problem here...i have my 4 speakers running of the HU and a subwoofer running of an external amp to the HU preamped inputs. Does anyone know how I should connect the subwoofer to the NDG500 to make it function.

yup you need a hi input to rca converter... and wallah!

wouldn't that not allow me to use my sub woofer of my existing HU.

You have a slight dilemma with using a sub amp.

One way to try to do this is to splice into the speaker-out wiring (L/R rear +/-) on the ND-G500. That is on the large connector (double plug size). This is sending the audio back to your speakers. It has the AVIC produced audio inserted via the ND-G500. The AVIC info is then amplified within the ND-G500. The HU audio is not amplified and just passed thru the ND-G500 using whatever amplification your head unit produces.

See if your AMP can handle this amplified output (amplified? audio produced by the HU and the amplified AVIC audio produced by the ND-G500). If it can not, you are in trouble with the F500. Wiring Spliced before the ND-G500 amplification (small speaker wire plug on harness) will not contain any AVIC audio content.

You may use the F500 L/R audio-out with no amplification, but this is already a wordy post.... reply if we need to discuss that option, but the ND-G500 would then not be used...

Kinda got the same problem here...i have my 4 speakers running of the HU and a subwoofer running of an external amp to the HU preamped inputs. Does anyone know how I should connect the subwoofer to the NDG500 to make it function.

you know what would make this a very easy install, ditch the 500 and replace the 4000 with a 700, 710, 900, or 910.

then instead of tring to get every thing to work together there is just IT working.

or use audio out on the f500 to an input on the 4000 and not use the f500's amp, your going to run into problems tring to get the amp(4ch) to run into another amp(ndg500) and then out not to mention the sub

the point of the f500 is for people thet have very simple stereo systems (factory or near factory) and dont want to spend a lot of money upgrading there entire system (which you have already done) it doeant even work very well with factory premium sound systems.

that just my two cents

wouldn't that not allow me to use my sub woofer of my existing HU.

yep

the F500 scenario you propose may have a major shortcoming..... can you combine outputs so that your audio for routing and other spoken AVIC ouput will mute your HU (4000) source?.... or can it feed thru the 4000 and be heard even without muting the HU source?

I have an older Eclass that i did not want to change from oem... it fortunately has a 2+" recess in front of the radio (radio set back 2" from console trim). I installed the F500 with friction hinges to tilt up to access the radio controls, but the F500 is visible at all other times. works perfect for me and looks near built in due to the 2" allowing the F500 to be flush with the console...

I get the functionality of the existing radio along with a stock interior. I modified a hidden (from view) part of the wood trim to hold the AVIC support I fabbed. I modded a purchased piece of wood trim from Ebay just in case I decide to do anything crazy like retore this puppy as a collector down the road - i'd just put the original trim piece back)

you know what would make this a very easy install, ditch the 500 and replace the 4000 with a 700, 710, 900, or 910.

then instead of tring to get every thing to work together there is just IT working.

 

or use audio out on the f500 to an input on the 4000 and not use the f500's amp, your going to run into problems tring to get the amp(4ch) to run into another amp(ndg500) and then out not to mention the sub

 

the point of the f500 is for people thet have very simple stereo systems (factory or near factory) and dont want to spend a lot of money upgrading there entire system (which you have already done) it doeant even work very well with factory premium sound systems.

 

that just my two cents

the F500 scenario you propose may have a major shortcoming

any F500 scenario with a system as complexed as his (indash mobile video, 4 channel amp, and sub amp) is going to have a major short coming or two, thats why when you replace your head unit with a fancy one like the 4000 you might as well just get one with all the options you want so that way you dont have to figure out how you want to rig it up with extra stuff, and how you can make "most of it work"

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the F500 scenario you propose may have a major shortcoming

any F500 scenario with a system as complexed as his (indash mobile video, 4 channel amp, and sub amp) is going to have a major short coming or two, thats why when you replace your head unit with a fancy one like the 4000 you might as well just get one with all the options you want so that way you dont have to figure out how you want to rig it up with extra stuff, and how you can make "most of it work"

I guess i forgot to mention...i dont not have a 4 channel amp...just a sub amp.... Basically what i want to do is to listen to the original p4000dvd with the sub...then when the navi is giving commands.... to mute the p4000dvd so the avic can be heard through the speakers...i do not care about the avic being able to utilize the sub.

In this scenario...how would i hook up the unit

Ok after a little break...and some more pondering hers what ive come up with....

Run thespeaker leads from the hu to the ndg-500 like a factory unit....will double amplify my door speakers(once from the HU and once from the NDG500)...but should not be a problem.

For the sub...heres the plan.... i had an extra PAC TR4 laying around so heres my thoughts.... (TR4 is a tigger accessory which accepts low voltage off of speaker leads and such and creates a 12volt output)

The plan is to connect the low voltage reader to the aux cable that goes into the audio input in the ndg500. Then run the 12 volt lead to the mute cable of the p4000dvd. This will mute subwoofer when the avic is pronouncing its commands. And i will still be able to run my subwoofer off of the hu preamped output

What yall think

Let me give a little insight. The avic NDG500 assumes that you are amplifying at the head unit. The NDG500 is the means the avic uses to interupt (mute) sound during avic output. The NDG500 does not amplify the HU output. The NDG500 amplifies the AVIC ouput to attempt to match the already amplified HU output. The logic pioneer used was to come up with the best place to control both HU output to speakers and AVIC ouput to speakers; this to allow AVIC commands and AVIC music output.

your idea is good, but there will not be double amplification, however, there will be amplification from two sources. Have you checked the trigger to see if it induces delayed amp power up. Have you checked for pops or clicks during the triggering. Could be a simple annoyance or a voice coil buster at worst.

keep us posted

Also if you use an Ipod or sd card for music. you will have no bass. It is already a little weak, so you will not be satisfied with AVIC music. It appears that this is not a concern based on your postings.

Ok after a little break...and some more pondering hers what ive come up with....

 

Run thespeaker leads from the hu to the ndg-500 like a factory unit....will double amplify my door speakers(once from the HU and once from the NDG500)...but should not be a problem.

 

For the sub...heres the plan.... i had an extra PAC TR4 laying around so heres my thoughts.... (TR4 is a tigger accessory which accepts low voltage off of speaker leads and such and creates a 12volt output)

 

The plan is to connect the low voltage reader to the aux cable that goes into the audio input in the ndg500. Then run the 12 volt lead to the mute cable of the p4000dvd. This will mute subwoofer when the avic is pronouncing its commands. And i will still be able to run my subwoofer off of the hu preamped output

 

What yall think

It does'nt have a pop....but has a 1 second delay which i see can be a problem now.

My alpine amp has speaker level inputs...so i'm trying to figure out how i can splice the wires to make them work...

Im not going to be using the ipod..or sd card...or usb...as my 4000 already has those....just concerned about navigation and blue tooth