Hi all. I have an f90bt. Was working perfectly since xmas. Recently did the 3.01 update. Sound has been lower on all functions(Read that others noticed lower volume since update too). 30 used to be loud, now more like 40. Then today I realized when listening to music from my iPhone it was playing through only the right channel. Anyone have any insight into this problem?
Are you using the pioneer cable? If so get rid of it that is your problem. Switch over to the Apple or Monster cable which I'm using. Should solve your problem.
Why would that work though. It worked perfectly till the updates were done. What is the diference in the cables? It sucks to have to buy a new cable when I already have one that worked.
Hmmm. Now today it is working again so far.....
This is starting to become a more prevalent issue. It's SOMETHING to do with the connectors SOMEWHER to the iPod/iPhone, as you'll find when it does it that your other sound inputs work fine, i.e. radio/cd player etc will play properly through all the speakers. Nobody knows for sure what the issue is, yet. There's just speculation it's the white/red RCAs, but there's been no definitive proof of this.
Thanks for the informative post. I will keep an eye on it and if I figure anything out post my findings.
This is starting to become a more prevalent issue. It's SOMETHING to do with the connectors SOMEWHER to the iPod/iPhone, as you'll find when it does it that your other sound inputs work fine, i.e. radio/cd player etc will play properly through all the speakers. Nobody knows for sure what the issue is, yet. There's just speculation it's the white/red RCAs, but there's been no definitive proof of this.
This isn't rocket science guys, troubleshooting will help someone figure out which if the many reasons that could cause it to happen are the issue in their individual case. All the other listed sources are internal, they don't use any of the path listed below.
Since we know that the analog in is where the audio comes in, one can choose to remove the dock and dock connector from the equation by using a simple 3.5mm to RCA cable out of an audio device into the AVIC RCA's if it still happens then it's either the RCA itself, or as some have found, the header in the AVIC that the RCAs plug into.
The AVIC does nothing digital with the ipod audio, it simply feeds in analog, and that's easy to trace and troubleshoot. People keep trying to make this into a more complicated issue, it's simple analog signal tracing and troubleshooting. Too many people are looking to "prove how bad the AVIC is" by damning this, but it's one of the most brilliantly simple things Pioneer did.
Your choices of there the audio issue is coming from isn't a tough one, it uses the following analog path:
ipod side of the dock connector/analog
cable side of the dock connector/analog
RCA cable out of the dock connector
RCA cable into the AVIC
header pins in the harness from the RCA jacks
internal header jack of the AVIC
and last and least likely, internal signal paths in the AVIC
I had this, with out a doubt the cable was at fault. It was fine for a good 7-8 months then it start dropping the sound level on the left side, changed the cable all good again for now.
What cable did you change to?
I just realized my iphone was only playing sound from he left sides last night. The left front and back speakers were working but nothing on the right. I would have to have to pull out the radio and change the cable as it was such an hard time run that cable under the dash. It was working before I did the 3.0 update though but as mention it maybe the cable to I may try and change the cable.
It has nothing to do with firmware/software.
It is a hardware issue, one Pioneer is aware of. The plug that the white harness plugs into that connects all the RCA cables to the unit has a weak solder joint and causes the iPod RCA inputs from the iPod cable to short out either left or right or both, sometimes fade in and out (loosing connection). Pioneer will fix it for you so send it in for repairs..
Yeah, I've been having the same issue too and sometimes if I'd turn hard the speakers would kick back in. I found that if you just simply unplug it and plug it back it, it generally fixes it.
Are you saying to just use the USB cable for the iPhone/iPod straight into the USB cable on the unit's end and that'll prevent this issue?
The USB Interface is for controlling the songs and pulling your library to the unit, the sound still has to go through the RCA connections, so using just an iPhone/iPod USB cable won't work as you won't have any sound. Chances are, if you've got the sound cutting in and out, and you've checked the dock connector and RCA connections, you need to send it in for repair.
I had a similar problem I believe. The sound was quieter out of that right channel too. The problem happened rarely and then became more and more prevalent. I then could not stop it from happening. I obviously had checked all connections and put it down to something to with the Pioneer iPod cable. RCA plugged in, differnt iPod same result.
In the end made the jump to the Apple one, still working now.
Just want to say I as having the same problem.. the ipod classic, touch and iphone no sound from right speakers. I gave up an got the apple $50 cable and itstalled and everything is working perfectly right now so it was indeed the pioneer cable.
Does anyone have a part number / website I can get this apple branded cable from?
I've looked on Apple's website and can't seem to find a cable with an ipod dock connection and usb on one end, with the 3 RCAs on the other.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Clutrz
Does anyone have a part number / website I can get this apple branded cable from?I've looked on Apple's website and can't seem to find a cable with an ipod dock connection and usb on one end, with the 3 RCAs on the other.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Clutrz
It's not that hard, really it's not..just look on the ipod accessories, Cables page.. it's right there in the 2nd line.
You're looking for the Apple Composite AV cable
It's not "dock and USB on one end, RCA on the the other"
It's "dock connector, then USB and RCA out"
My bad. Must have been half asleep. Thanks for pointing out my stupidity. I'd skipped this thinking it was a component cable kit.
Cheers,
Clutrz
Genuine Apple cable purchased and installed. +1 for another person who this has solved the problem for.
I got my wife an iPod so I went ahead and pulled the trigger and bought an apple cable.. but $46 was hard to swallow so I paid $32 on eBay for an apple open box cable.. we'll see how well this goes.
i had the same problem, (i have the pioneer cables) so i went ahead and removed the unit and noticed connection were disconnected so i re-connected the and put some electrical tape on them and has worked fine since. For some reason the connection is really really loose on mine, it doesnt take much to disconnect
same problem but i get sound on left side only intermittently and also use the pioneer cable. going to BB to get it checked out and possibly doing the electrical tape solution if its loose.
I was having the right channel problem as well. Then I tried another Ipod as I really didn't think it was the cable. The problem was worse with the different Ipod. This still let led me to believe that it was a software issue.
I was starting to look at new head units already when I figured I'd take a look here and found this thread near the top interestingly enough. So, I figured what the heck...it's easy enough to replace the cable and the Apple Store has a 14 day return policy.
At this point, I hadn't been able to get the Ipod to connect for more than a minutes or so for over a week. I'd taken a few long car rides where I never got it to work at all...
Well, anyway....I hooked up the Apple cable and instant success. I think part of it is the way the cable attaches the the Ipod. With the Pioneer one, it moves. With the Apple one, it doesn't.
I then ordered a new Apple cable from ebay for a fraction of the price and will return the Apple one once I receive it.
Between this and the basically free MSN Direct this week, I'm quite happy with my F90 again.
Thanks again to this forum!
I took my car to bestbuy and had them inspect the cable. When i arrived i was already getting the left side audio. when he unscrewed my dash the right side sound came on. He then pulled out the radio and inspected the cables. Everything was nice clean and tight. Our only idea was that the cable was pinched or the unit was screwed in too hard.
In any case I been getting both sides of sound through repeated power-ons and unplugs.
I realize this is an older thread, but, for giggles, I called Pioneer. The tech said, "I've heard of this problem 2x. It is not a regular thing. Pioneer does not have a service bulletin. It is $200 to fix your stereo."
Whatever. I'll try the apple cable...