Hello,
I have an EUR F-900BT and an Iphone 3GS with fw 3.1 installed. When I had 3.0 the iphone was charging normally through the pioneer ipod cable (just asking for airplane mode) now when I connect it says that the accessory doesn't support the charge.
Anyone has the same problem?
Thanks,
Z.
hi i have a iphone 3gs live in sweden but my bluetooth dont even finsd my iphone i have 2.0 ?
Yes mine does not charge either now I'm on 3.1
I have the same problem but running a 3GS with 3.0
Any clues? Anybody?
I called Pioneer Tech Support and they simply said:
"Apple has changed their firmware so we no longer support charging from the Unit (mine is a 900BT)"
I am totally POed at this answer!!
I tried plugging the phone before turning the unit ON but it didn't change anything for me.
It does not recharge anymore...
Come on, someone must have a solution to this real stupid problem!
The Pioneer guy is claiming nothing they can do on their end... Hard to believe but Oh well.. I may just have a 900BT for sale very soon. I have to be able to recharge my phone while in the car and still listen to music.
Revert back to 3.0.1
well loy,
the problem with that is apple just disabled downgrading the os.... this problem is beyond annoying - there has the be a way around it either with a software hack for jailbroken iphones or that we can implement in our pioneer systems.
Come on guys, lets brain storm!
Has anyone tried one of those charge adapters that came out when the 3G wouldn't charge over firewire? Clearly we know that the unit supports charging, but it's just software telling it not to charge anymore.
This is ridiculous. The manual for Pioneer states to use the latest firmware anyhow.
Has anyone tried one of those charge adapters that came out when the 3G wouldn't charge over firewire? Clearly we know that the unit supports charging, but it's just software telling it not to charge anymore.
This is ridiculous. The manual for Pioneer states to use the latest firmware anyhow.
Well, Pioneer has no control what other idiotic thing Apple might do in their fiirmware...
i read somewhere that when you plug the 3GS that a message pops up and all yo uhave to do is click no and it would charge, something about the ipod authentication chip
plugged mine in and out 5 times today - 3 times it came up with the message it did not support charging and 2 times it said nothing and charged the phone so go figure that out. very hit and miss
Well, I tried the Scosche adapter and it still does not allow charging. I've unplugged and plugged it in to no charging success.
Wow. Apple. WTF?
I started a thread on Apple's forum in case anyone is interested.
Are you guys saying it says it wont charge or it literally doesn't charge? Mine charges just fine with 3.1.2 I have never had an issue. I am using the apple cable.
It's a usb charging system, drivers isn't going to change the power pins Its as simple as that.
I have noticed however a bug where the 3gs wont charge when its already fairly charged, say 80 or 90 percent of capacity but it will when drained say half way.
I would say try a different cable, and plug it in when its half way gone, see if it still does it.
Don't trust pioneer support, they are a bunch of minimum wage monkey's, they told me a long time ago the iphone charging isn't supported, but what do you know it does work, just get a descent cable that actually has some quality control in it for the 50 dollars. (apple composite cable) after switching to that it worked just fine, but yeah taht bug is there.
Thanks for the tip. I'll have to drain my phone a little bit more to see if that's what's going on. What I can't figure out is how it would charge before (using the Pioneer cable) then after the update, it will no longer charge. I do know that Apple has had firmware updates before that have FIXED charging issues. I know pins are pins, but on this phone, it certainly has some software to regulate certain things. For instance, when I have the phone connected to my computer, it actually will not charge until Windows is fully booted--as in it won't charge during POST and startup--even though it's connected.
always problemas with the apple fu**ing way of life............
I had the same problem with a 3rd party AV cable. The official rumour is that Apple has made a change in the new firmware to make it ignore anything but Apple cables (apparently they have a chip in the connector). I could get audio but not video.
However, my Pioneer cable still works fine.
Your options are:
1) Buy the Apple cable and support the dirty tricks campaign
2) Get a different MP3 player with USB
3) Get a huge SD card and stick your music on that
4) There is an article somewhere (in Hacks/Mods I think) that shows how to couple up a 2.5" hard drive
5) Stop whinging and put the radio on 
This is a common trait with Apple products - I think it may even constitute market protectionism in Europe and therefore subject to unfair trading laws.
I have an F700BT and wished now that I had stayed with Kenwood. I takes about 3.5 minutes just to boot the thing. That said, when it's running (it got returned to Pioneer at 11 months old), it does the job just fine (though in Belgium I get a whole load of Route Recalculation followed by "you should have turned left a quarter of a mile ago"....)
Still not charging here. Consistently giving me the warning that it is not made to charge. 
Has anyone else had success charging the iPhone 3GS after the latest firmware? It still works on all my other systems (Philips dock, Altec Lansing dock) but not on the Pioneer radio that used to work.
Is it really just changing the cable to one made by Apple?
Hi guys,
This is my first post on here, but I have been a "guest" for about 2 months. I have been thinking about this problem with the iPhone 3Gs on firmware 3.1.2 charging on the F series. I have an F900 and have done some testing that has yielded some interesting results.
First thing - it appears the 3rd party and official Apple cables both charge the iPhone 3Gs when the USB end of the suspected cable is plugged into a wall mount USB charger with 5V output. I have tested this with 3 wall mount USB chargers. The official Apple charger, a Kodak charger and a no name charger. All of them charge the 3Gs with the official Apple cable, and the 3rd party no name cable.
The same cables, when plugged into the USB input on the F900 does not charge. My only reason for this is that the voltage output from the F900 does not match the required input for the iPhone 3Gs to charge. So this would resolve the issue of pinout mappings and disabling chips, right?
My question to anyone who is savvy: can we get information to build some kind of small inline USB voltage transformer that will fit between the F series unit USB input and the USB end of the multimedia cable?
If this is possible I would be willing to build a test unit - and possibly help build working units for anyone interested.
I do not know the output voltages coming from the USB input on the F900, and what pin they match up to, but I'm fairly confident this is this issue causing the iPhone 3Gs to not charge.
Let me know your thoughts...
-Ben
Just did a little more research and now I'm really intrigued:
If a normal USB system gives this sort of voltage ...
Pin Name Description
1 VBUS +5 VDC
2 D- Data -
3 D+ Data +
4 GND Ground
And charging an iPhone 3Gs 3.1.2 requires 5 volts averaged across pins 2 and 3 (2.5V on each pin) could this be as simple as no reference voltage being applied to pins 2 and 3 on the USB from the headunit? Could a simple jumper between the cables that applies 2.5V to pins 2 and 3, and some resistor from pin 1 to each pin do the trick?
Weigh in whenever anyone has a chance to see if I'm getting ahead of myself here.
***Nevermind - I found a bunch adapters that don't appear to work, that make this all irrelevant***
I found this on ebay.
I saw it yesterday by chance, and did not understand it served. It may be to solve your problem.
I do not know whats going on. I just got my Iphone 16 Gb 3Gs with F90BT / F90BT w/genuine Pioneer cable and Charges play's audio /video just fine. Check your connections. Try to plug your Iphone in after your unit boots up fully. See thead's on Iphone Under Other Products near the bottom of the page of the Board Index. 
BTW I fogot to say before I used a cheap cable from E-bay. It did not charge my I pod touch so I used the charing adapter to 5.0 volts and it did work on Joan's (my wifes) F900BT. I do not like using the adapter so I got a genuine Pioneer cable on E-bay. It works just fine without the adapter. My F90BT came with Pioneer cable it always worked.