Hey guys I'm new to these forums but by reading them I have decided to buy the new Pioneer Avic Z110BT! I wanted to talk about CES 2010 now I know that this is Pioneers flagship model but do y'all think that they will have any new units or will there just be an update for the firmware or some other related update to the current line? I found this while doing some Goggling "Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. Mobile Business Division announces its exciting 2010 in-vehicle offerings including ultra-high-end audio, navigation, A/V receivers and other mobile components. Top level executives will present cutting edge technologies at the forefront of advanced media, connectivity, control interface as well as business strategy for 2010." what do yall think any ideas??

It is not known yet but I suspect we will see an upgrade to the 110. We will learn of the new products as soon as they are announced as Pioneer will be providing the info for release on this site. We all should know in a few days.

lets hope its a midlife upgrade (software) that we can all take advantage of

It is suspected that there will be yearly upgrades for a few years to come as there was for the previous Z series. That series went on for almost five years.

any updates on a z110 refresh. I see some announcements for the other lines.

Doesn't look like the 110 is going to get anything new at all.

guess thats good and bad

You do realize CES hasn't even started yet? Only the press releases/conferences have. It starts tomorrow. Hang tight and see what they actually have to say on the show floor

I want to know if the Z110 update will do this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... atsNewsTop

I have a feeling that we will be getting this update for the Z too. The X920 and the Z110 appear to run the same operating system, nav software, etc, and both have a 3D accelerator, so I would have reason to believe the Z110 should have no problem handling all of these enhancements with ease. If these features do come out in an update, I would have to consider getting an iPhone to use these services. Also, it would be interesting to see if they could allow us pull in traffic/weather data through the iPhone.

They do appear to run the same software so I don't see why we would not have the same functions with the Z. However, I am able to use Pandora with no problem on the Z as it is now. Either BT or with the iPod cable. This new feature only seems to put an icon on the units screen and display the phones interface. It does sound nice but that alone wouldn't make me buy the unit.

I wouldn't jump ship for that feature either. I just hope they update this thing to load the VR engine on bootup, regardless of whether the "OK" button is pressed on the warning screen. By setting the VR engine to load on boot, that fixes the voice dialing, the VR control of multimedia, etc. As a side note, I'm kind of surprized that Pioneer didn't use a rotary volume knob with the new X920. There's definitely room for it. Let's hope for the best tomorrow.

I think the pandora interface looks sweet...even has album covers. I would much rather see that and touch the screen than use my phone

They do appear to run the same software so I don't see why we would not have the same functions with the Z. However, I am able to use Pandora with no problem on the Z as it is now. Either BT or with the iPod cable. This new feature only seems to put an icon on the units screen and display the phones interface. It does sound nice but that alone wouldn't make me buy the unit.

O yea that is cool. If they update the Z to have that feature, I will certainly use it.

I am curious if this works over BT because that is the only way I would use it.

Kinda doubt it. I would think the album art would have to go through the cable

Yea thats what I was thinking as well. I use a 160 GB iPod on the iPod cable and the iPhone goes through the AV2 input from the Apple Composite AV Cable so this probably wouldn't work for me.

The X920 looks incredible! I love the 3-d look of the maps and the larger screen... Can't wait to see what the Z series looks like! Pioneer is starting to show stuff on their website. Hopefully we will see more today! With the price of the X920 coming in around 1200, what will the price of the Z run?? Looks like I am going to have to save up some more money...

Can't wait to see what the Z series looks like!

No change here, at least not yet.

With the price of the X920 coming in around 1200, what will the price of the Z run??

Same as it is right now, there is no change to the Z.

Do you think the update will be available right away, if there is one for the 110? The 920 looks great but as of right now I am still pushing towards the 110. Hey VBLUE42 can the update possibly include some of the new things done with the 920 or is that not possible? It looks like they put in alot more 3d options with the maps and the motion wheel...

Pioneer does the same thing every year for timelines.

April, release lower cost units.

July map updates come out

September the Z is updated.

the focus is always on the low cost units, which is understandable since they sell alot more of. The Z gets software updates and the hardware stays the same. The deck itself was the same hardware for like four years. They finally did something just last year, which may mean we wont see any hardware changes this year.

Hey VBLUE42 can the update possibly include some of the new things done with the 920 or is that not possible? It looks like they put in alot more 3d options with the maps and the motion wheel...

From what I see the Z could certainly be updated to the new features. To me it looks like the same map software though.

I think you are probably right. They typically beg dealers for orders at CES on newer models which ship in like march. The best business decision would be to push the 920 because it is actually a big change, not the Z because it won't change except for software. They usually have another product intro in April, and then they will start taking orders on the new models and the software to update old models. Bet we see the Z120 and some sort of SD card to update the 110 then

Pioneer does the same thing every year for timelines.

April, release lower cost units.

July map updates come out

September the Z is updated.

 

the focus is always on the low cost units, which is understandable since they sell alot more of. The Z gets software updates and the hardware stays the same. The deck itself was the same hardware for like four years. They finally did something just last year, which may mean we wont see any hardware changes this year.

Thats fine by me. Z110 is the way i'm going to go... I don't personally care about pandora and Eco routes and all the stuff. Anyone know when 6th ave is going to have that name your own price thing again?