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Bypass with Switch

By Humv · Jan 15, 2010in Problems/Troubleshooting💬 22 posts👁️ 2,869 views
Posted Jan 15, 2010 · 03:19 UTC#1

I installed my new z110bt and to be honest im not that happy with it. I sold my AVH-P6800dvd for this one and regret it big time!!!.. maybe in not used to it yet. but Is it just my unit or do any of you guys notice the video quality sucks on the z110.. Anyway lets get to this topic. My problem is when i am in motion the warning symbol comes on and when i reach a certain speed it turns off and video is back on allowing me to watch the video. what can this be? Installed in my Hummer H3 with Gmos04 with onstar and monsoon.

I connected everything correct. vss, mute, reverse. The Green wire is grounded with a switch just like the way i connected my p6800dvd but for some reason its not working with this unit. I dont want to do the bypass with removing the mute. Has anybody on this forum used a switch method?

Posted Jan 15, 2010 · 03:34 UTC#2

Follow the directions on the bypass threads. If it doesn't work its not done correctly.

Posted Jan 15, 2010 · 03:41 UTC#3
Follow the directions on the bypass threads. If it doesn't work its not done correctly.

I can't find the Thread that uses the Switch method

Posted Jan 15, 2010 · 04:08 UTC#4

There is no thread using a switch with any of the navi systems. If you don't want to do the bypass as instructed then you cant expect it to work.

Posted Jan 15, 2010 · 09:51 UTC#5

You don't need a switch, you need to take it back to your installer and tell him to do it right. If he doesn't know how, take it to a real shop or read the threads that tell your bonehead installer how to do it

Posted Jan 15, 2010 · 23:57 UTC#6

Well i know on hyundai santa fe forum someone did this.

You can ask your installer to verify but switch should send signal to ground cable which you bypass and ground connection should complete.

 

I also want to give it a try since if one bad day :( cops pull over for something and want to test video in motion then i want to disable bypass by switch. :mrgreen:

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 01:32 UTC#7

Ask my installer? okay hold on... I asked myself and i aint got no clue.. lol When i hit over 10 mph the screen warning turns on. Its gotta be some singnal being sent to the HU letting it know i am in drive. Would this be the vss wire?

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 02:02 UTC#8

No, its the gyro inside the unit telling it you are in motion. That means the bypass was done incorrectly

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 02:12 UTC#9

like he says the bypass is done wrong

all i did was move the mute wire over one slot and then grounded both the mute wire and the parking brake wire together. I did use a switch to stop the ground from theese two wires and mounted it under the dash just incase of getting pulled over :D

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 02:18 UTC#10

scense your green wire is allready on a switch just move the yellow mute wire over one slot on the harness and join it to the green wire when you flick your switch the bypass will work as your previous model.

the key thing is moving the yellow mute wire over one slot

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 02:45 UTC#11
scense your green wire is allready on a switch just move the yellow mute wire over one slot on the harness and join it to the green wire when you flick your switch the bypass will work as your previous model.

the key thing is moving the yellow mute wire over one slot

 

The yellow wire is connected to my brown Mute wire on the gmos04 car harness.(whats it funtion?)

 

In order for me to move the yellow mute wire over i would have to disconnect it with my brown mute wire. And Exactly what will i be discconecting? what is the purpose of the "Mute" wire.

 

If i move the wire then theres no point for a switch.

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 03:37 UTC#12

Find another wire you are not using or try to acquire a wire from your installer and move it to the proper position.

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 05:53 UTC#13

the switch is incase i get pulled over

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 06:11 UTC#14

im not sure how you could do the by pass in your case

your mute wire is probally hooked up to the onstar adapter which you will need for the music to cancel out when using your onstar. not sure if the bypass will work without taking the mute wire out of its origional position. or if you can leave it plugged in and just add another wire to the next slot over. im sure someone must know if that will work or not

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 06:17 UTC#15

Any wire in the proper location will work.

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 18:16 UTC#16
Any wire in the proper location will work.

 

Thanks Blue! you gave me a great idea i did the by pass in 30 seconds without cutting the harness or relocating anywires...

 

Check out my video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdERUzrlJ3U

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 18:28 UTC#17

Looks good. Personally I feel the whole switch thing is completely unnecessary but to each his own. I have not really had any issues with vid quality so I was surprised by your complaint there. Also there is now a solution for wireless remotes with this unit. Click the link below for details.

 

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=30322

Posted Jan 16, 2010 · 23:57 UTC#18

Why would you want a switchable bypass? Not trying to be a deek... Just trying to understand why you would want to turn your bypass on and off????

 

I also think that the vid quality is awesome.... at least via the IPod/IPhone...

Posted Jan 17, 2010 · 02:17 UTC#19
Why would you want a switchable bypass? Not trying to be a deek... Just trying to understand why you would want to turn your bypass on and off????

 

I also think that the vid quality is awesome.... at least via the IPod/IPhone...

 

Well i read on some other forum that cops can give you a ticket(i'm in CA) for having video bypass done.

Switch allows to ground signal to be on/off hence if cops stops you and want to check if you have bypass you can just disable bypass. I don't have experience with this, but it sounds logical to me when cities are reducing their orange to red timing to ticket more people to increase revenue and i have first hand experience with this. Be careful of those orange to red traps at LAX.

Posted Jan 17, 2010 · 02:24 UTC#20

The laws in most states dictate that video can not be playing in view of the driver. The wording is very specific and that is the illegal part. To my knowledge, there is no law in any state that makes a video bypass illegal. If a cop actually does require you to show him that you have a bypass and writes you a ticket for it and the law is not specific on that matter, you can beat it in court everytime. Google your states laws and you can find out for sure.

Posted Jan 17, 2010 · 09:36 UTC#21

I agree. If a cop is pacing you and you are dumb enough to be watching movies at night, you are screwed whether you have a switch or not because he will see the flicker in your car. On top of that, a cop will never get in your car and make you drive to check whether your deck is bypassed or not. Switch seems like overkill to me

Posted Jan 20, 2010 · 06:18 UTC#22
You don't need a switch, you need to take it back to your installer and tell him to do it right. If he doesn't know how, take it to a real shop or read the threads that tell your bonehead installer how to do it

Any reputable shop won't do the bypass anyways. And as far as bonehead installer goes, any good installer should know how to bypass any unit they install. I know all of my guys do, regardless of whether or not they do it.

And it CAN be done with a switch, you just need to make sure that both wires are grounded, and you can hook a switch in line with either one to toggle the bypass. If your vehicle has a VSS output, then you could use a switch and a two relays to toggle between bypassed, and standard operation.