Hey guys, I finally worked out why my F710BT wasn't updating but the problem was the way i had formatted the SD card on my mac... so anyway I updated from 3.00.03 to 3.02.02.

It all seemed to go to plan, then when it restarted it looked normal but... "system startup in progress" stays on the screen (unless I go into audio source, and it moves out of the way, but upon going back to the main menu it is still there) - if I was to click navigation then I can't get past that disclaimer screen (can't see the button anyway as its underneath the startup message anyway), then it gets worse, the system restarts itself every 3-4 minutes or so

If this is the problems I have doing the factory update, I'm really going to screw up putting on the diaftia stuff

Can anyone be of assistance? I've booted into testmode out of curiosity but haven't done anything in there yet

I have tried the reset button at the top left to no avail... is there anything i can do in testmode to maybe roll back the changes? Although I would like to have the new version working...

Saying that, i don't have a backup it didn't even occur to me to try before i did a proper factory update, I would have backed up before trying any mods...

Could anybody offer any advice I'm pretty stuck here guys

ho-kay... not entirely sure why nobodies even talking to me but I have been trying different things so if anyone would like to give me a leg up this should give them the complete picture...

• Thought on a whim that installing the Diafia Hybrid v2.3 might fix things, I did all the copy and pasting and deleted that user data (except for favourites.dat) but this didn't help the problem...

• I have tried deleting the 4 bin files in the flash root - no change

• due to the fact that I can get into the audio stuff fine but not the navigation, i thought maybe it was related to maps... so i downloaded the latest (or what I think is the latest) maps file (UnitedKingdom8.3TA_2009.09_091026.fbl) and swapped this for the one that was there (renamed the UnitedKingdom7PPC.fbl to UnitedKingdom7PPC.fbl.bak then renamed the new UnitedKingdom8.3TA_2009.09_091026.fbl to UnitedKingdom7PPC.fbl) - this also didn't make any difference

(edit: I did wonder why the UK one had "7PPC" after it, so I renamed to just UnitedKingdom.fbl... still didn't work)

If I'm honest, I don't really know what I'm doing and am just trying difference things from scouring this forum - could someone at least tell me if i'm heading in the right direction? Really don't want to send it back to pioneer if I could do it myself...

anyone?

So...

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=29258

Read on this thread about downloading and using a hacked EZrider.exe, along with a generic licence file... Since at the bottom of the first post someone expresses the same problems as me I figured I had finally found a solution.

As previously mentioned I had already updated the .fbl map file (UnitedKingdom8.3TA_2009.09_091026.fbl) so didn't use the maps linked to in that thread as I think they're US anyway.

So, I have tried pretty much everything I can find and I'm still stuck with a "System startup in progress" message stopping me getting into the nav, and the unit still restarts every minute or so.

Want to know the annoying thing? since nobody is helping me on here I am trying to find help on other sites, and they all say ask on bloody AVIC411 as they are the guys to who'll know the answer!!!

Spose this is the last time I'll ask since I need it sorted, if anyone can help me out please do else I guess I'll have to ship it off to Pioneer and I'll never find out what was wrong with it.

Christ I'll even pay someone by PayPal gift if thats what it comes to to get a helping hand!

Have you tried running the upgrade again?I have read in the past that if it doesn't install properly first time,installing it again has done the trick.

That was one of the first things I tried but the unit doesn't respond to the update card, i'm guessing because it sees that its the same version number so assumes all is up to date.

Thanks for the response though... any other ideas?

Rang a pioneer outlet today and they said if I take it in then they would sort it under warranty... Is there any reason why none of you knowledgeable folk on here want to help me out? I feel like I'm going to have to drive 60 miles (the nearest one) and be left without a stereo for 3 weeks for no reason when I could have sorted it myself with a little guidance.

Is there a way to roll back drivers? is there a way to force it to redo the update? do the problems I have point to one specific file being faulty?

The only thing i can think of is to restore your original Flash Disc through Testmode.If you didn't make a back up there are links on here to download complete flash drives.If you want to send me your details(and a blank SD card )I am more than happy to send you a copy of mine.I know how frustrating it is when things go wrong,been there and got the Tee shirt!

Which unit do you have? (and does that even matter?)

If you have a fully working copy of "My Flash Disk" that will definitely work 100% on my F710BT, then that would be awesome

If I PayPal you some cash could you fire me a copy on CD?

I have a 900BT.If some of the real experts on here can confirm that it will work on your unit then great.Obviously we need to establish 100% that it won't be a waste of time(yours,not mine)

yeah that'd be good if someone could at least confirm this? in the meantime, does anyone know how to simply switch the unit off for now? had a three hour drive yesterday with it rebooting every 3 mintues

Dont think you can without removing the power supply.There is a fuse in the back but you would have to take the unit out of your dash to get at it.

This happened to me the first time I ran the update. You need to find a 2.0 backup and restore that. Then do the 3.0 update again. It wont boot from the 3.0 update because it sees that its already there. Just restore a 2.0 flash disk backup and then perform the 3.0 update again. When you restore 2.0 it will have the same please wait message but just do all the steps before it reboots and you will be fine.

thanks loads for the reply diaftia!

can i ask 3 quick questions:

1) this is the f710bt not the f700bt... it actually came with the 3.0 software on and has never seen version 2... do you still recommend I put 2 on? I have an american f700bt v2 image that I found in one of the threads (a turboss ftp site?) - will that do for this exercise? Would it not be better to use say an X910BT v3.01 (US) image I have found and just update that using my official pioneer download to UK v3.02? would that not work?

2) if I was to do this, am i going to have a problem with the wince stuff? at the moment i use the latest testmode files and all works great but i think i read somewhere that wince will need to be downgraded to go to 2 and upgraded again to get back to 3?

3) could you explain what you mean by "do all the steps before it reboots"?

I feel like I am on the verge of sorting it now so really, thanks a lot

thanks loads for the reply diaftia!

 

can i ask 3 quick questions:

 

1) this is the f710bt not the f700bt... it actually came with the 3.0 software on and has never seen version 2... do you still recommend I put 2 on? I have an american f700bt v2 image that I found in one of the threads (a turboss ftp site?) - will that do for this exercise? Would it not be better to use say an X910BT v3.01 (US) image I have found and just update that using my official pioneer download to UK v3.02? would that not work?

 

2) if I was to do this, am i going to have a problem with the wince stuff? at the moment i use the latest testmode files and all works great but i think i read somewhere that wince will need to be downgraded to go to 2 and upgraded again to get back to 3?

 

3) could you explain what you mean by "do all the steps before it reboots"?

 

I feel like I am on the verge of sorting it now so really, thanks a lot

1. Hmmm I can't speak expertly on this since I don't have this model. Knowing that my input would be this; If your unit is a newer one and came with 3.x then I would try to find someone that did a backup of a original unmodified version and copy that back. You dont need to worry about the downgrade. Recopying a original setup *should* work. I would try to find a UK backup so that you get those maps. Otherwise I would think you could find another backup and restore the UK maps. You might need to use a hacked EZRider and license to use the different maps from what came on the backup though. Hence its better just to locate a original UK 3.02.02 backup to restore. If you have your original *UNMODIFIED* 3.00.03 backup you can copy that back and then try the update to 3.02.02 again. If you backed up after you modified then I would start searching.

2. Not needed based on 1.

3. If you are getting a system startup please wait message the unit will sit there for a while and eventually reboot. Since you are just restoring the files from a backup in testmode now, you don't need to worry about this.

Realistically, has anyone really seen ANY benefits from going from V3.01 to V3.02?

Seems like alot of malarky for no forseeable benefit.

This happened to me the first time I ran the update. You need to find a 2.0 backup and restore that. Then do the 3.0 update again. It wont boot from the 3.0 update because it sees that its already there. Just restore a 2.0 flash disk backup and then perform the 3.0 update again. When you restore 2.0 it will have the same please wait message but just do all the steps before it reboots and you will be fine.

The exact same problem just happened to me, but I was stupid enough to assume that it would work and didn't back up. I've always backed everything up, but never needed to use them, so I got complacent... What a pita.

Diaftia, when you say restore to 2.0, you're talking about WinCE (the blue screen) correct? In this case, can you suggest where I might be able to find a 2.0 to restore?

I'm using a US F90BT and was running Australian maps without a hitch. When I copied the folders across, I used my Aussie maps, etc rather than the ones that were already there. Could this have caused any problems?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Have you had any luck Sooty?

Yes I have!

Still playing and testing but as it stands it seems I've cracked it

First, I backed up my (albeit broken) 3.0202 image.

I downloaded the 3.01 X910BT (US) Image from here:

Server: ftp://www.turboss.com

User: avicuser

Password: Avic911

(by the way, on that server there is the main zip and a secondary (par2) file which seems to do nothing, so i didn't bother with it)

Then into that, I merged the official UK 3.0202 update, then I merged in the latest EU Diaftia Hybrid along with the hacked ezrider.exe and licence file...

Next I deleted all of the US stuff from the content folder, and copied in all my UK stuff from my busted image - at least this had some purpose! - with the exception of the UK map for which I used the latest one from Sept '09.

I then deleted the files from within the USER/UserData/iGo/Save folder (so that my settings would be rebuilt as per Diaftia's instructions) and wrote the whole lot to an SD card along with the testmode folder...

Booted into WinCE, deleted everything off the "My Flash Disk" then copied over the contents of my all-in-one folder and hey presto, its all up and running and good to go

Hope this helps you 3xemplar and anyone else who's stuck

Good to hear you've got it sorted. I got it going as well by deleting everything in My Flash Disk and recopying everything, but this time with the regular maps, etc.

Not sure what it was that fixed it, but I suspect it was having issues loading my old maps. Looking for new ones now. Thanks!

I have exactly the same problem SooTyLaD - I have PM'd you too - I hope you don't mind...

Any chance you could take a read and help me out at all please?

Cheers

flatman

Hello, i noticed this is a pretty old topic but i think this is your solution.

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=29258

Check the end of the post :

Situation: Upon Startup the "System Startup in progress please wait..." message displays and stays on.

Solution: You copy and pasted over the wrong EZrider. Use the one from the link in step 3

Situtation: Upon Startup the system keeps self rebooting

Solution: You may have some corrupted files from step 1. Try downloading them all again

Server: ftp://www.turboss.com

User: avicuser

Password: Avic911

No longer works. Does anyone know where else 3.01 can be obtained?

Pioneer no longer offers this as a download, you now have to order it from them. I already have the 3.02 download but need the 3.01 update installed before you can update to 3.02.

Correction, password is not Avic911, remember the name of the forum and you will be able to get into this.