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X920BT Pandora link question.

By nothigincommon · Feb 13, 2010in General💬 20 posts👁️ 8,876 views
Posted Feb 13, 2010 · 21:46 UTC#1

I am wondering about the actual devices it supports, in the manual they specify any iphone running pandora, but in the CES video the guy seems to hint at more than just iphone support

 

"speaks with a portable device with the pandora app on it, in this case we have an iphone 3gs"

 

1:45 into the video =>

 

from the wording it sounds like it could possibly support pandora running on android?? or maybe backberry?? at least I hope :) Unless of course he was referring to other iphone devices when he specified the 3gs.

 

Any insider here know if pandora on an andriod phone would work?

Posted Feb 13, 2010 · 22:16 UTC#2

Likely not. The Pandora support works in conjunction with the iPod cable from the unit. Unless they release a cable that is compatible with other phones, or other phones allow external control from another device as the iPhone does, it wont happen. You will likely not see any other device support with any navi unit other then Apple devices for quite a while, if ever.

Posted Feb 14, 2010 · 00:04 UTC#3
Likely not. The Pandora support works in conjunction with the iPod cable from the unit. Unless they release a cable that is compatible with other phones, or other phones allow external control from another device as the iPhone does, it wont happen. You will likely not see any other device support with any navi unit other then Apple devices for quite a while, if ever.

Well the ipod cable is basically a usb cable. All cell phones interface PCs with a USB cables so technically its possible providing the application provided support for it on the mobile phone side, but unfortunately I fear you are correct and there probably wont be any pandora link android support. I just wish the guy would have said specifically in the video that ONLY iphones would work :(

Posted Feb 14, 2010 · 02:38 UTC#4

what ab pandora via blackberry. can this be controlled from the interface?

 

thanks

Posted Feb 14, 2010 · 02:47 UTC#5

No.

Posted Jul 22, 2010 · 23:54 UTC#6

Any developers around?

How hard will it be to make the PandoraLink - Android equivalent?

 

I wish I had some more time in my hands.. but this will be what I would do....

 

1) Get a jailbreak iPhone..

2) Hopefully in Cydia there is a tool to monitor device communication..

- find the open port for PandoraLink

- track device communication for the actions

3) Create an Android app which makes USB connection and emulates the communication.

 

Really is not as easy as it sound because requires work. Is sad we don't have this, because is what holding me from converting out of iPhone

 

UPDATE

From a quick search, there seems to be a project for having in Android an iPhone emulator... I wonder if this will be similar to WINE in Linux. If this is true and depending the progress..... I wonder if we can just load PandoraLink (iPhone version) into Android?

Posted Jul 23, 2010 · 00:56 UTC#7

Pandora Link barley works as it is on the iPhone right now so I wouldn't expect it to work in any emulation form.

Posted Jul 23, 2010 · 03:23 UTC#8

Lol! who knows.. maybe the problem is the iPhone and the crappy Objective-C which can't even close an application correctly... yeah! "Multi-tasking done right!".. B.S. :evil:

 

Also, it doesn't have to be "real" emulation like my update post. It can be research and create an open source application which handles the communication appropriately.

Posted Jul 23, 2010 · 03:35 UTC#9

No the problem is that its released by a company called Pioneer.

Posted Jul 23, 2010 · 04:29 UTC#10

Sorry, I grew up out of flame wars. I prefer hard facts with all candidates compared....

 

And there is no vendor who offers PandoraLink for Android.. So probably someone ~developed this "service" for iPhone to communicate Pandora App signals and sold it. Vendor probably implemented the interface and made a GUI for it.

 

Not sure as I have not seen the code.

Posted Jul 23, 2010 · 04:47 UTC#11

Yes clearly. Pioneer seems to employ programers fresh out of programing school. But its not the iPhone thats the problem. Its the shitty app.

Posted Jan 21, 2011 · 18:40 UTC#12

i have the htc evo hg and pandora works perfert with my avic 120bt through blue tooth audio. you just have to make sure that the phone pairs as an audio device and not headphone.

Posted Jan 29, 2011 · 04:56 UTC#13

does it display the pandora information on the headunit or just the music throught the headunit

Posted Jan 29, 2011 · 12:41 UTC#14

Just the music for BT audio.

Posted Mar 18, 2011 · 23:27 UTC#16

For what it's worth, there is a recently formed Car Connectivity Consortium that has as one of it's goals to set standards for interaction between vehicle systems and devices like Android Phones, iPhones, iPads, Windows Phone, etc, etc.

 

Like most such endeavors it will probably take years to be fully realized and not meet all every "wouldn't it be great if" ideas, however it's better than nothing.

 

However, one company is not on that list. Can you guess which one? Pioneer.

 

The reason you see so many of these HU's support full iPhone integration, with coming support for apps, etc, is because of one thing: A single, well documented, standardized docking connector. Apple has rolled it out across their product line and published specs on exactly what it can and cannot do. No such specification exists for Android - if an Android device even has a dock (very few do) it's proprietary and exists primarily as a way to force you to buy that particular manufacturers charging cable. This is a situation that is unlikely to change any time soon. The situation is pretty much the same for Nokia, Microsoft, and others in the phone software business - only Apple controls their entire software and hardware design, specifications, and supply chain.

 

Thus, with Android, et all, there is a problem - how do you communicate information to/from the phone beyond audio? Sure, they have USB (most of them), and by golly you can do all sorts of things with usb on a PC...but it's not the same. At all. The software on the phone has to allow different types of communication over the interface, and publish those standards, and then the receiver side has to understand them. If each manufacture picks their own particular way of doing it, then you end up with only certain models/versions of phones working with certain model/versions of HU. The same situation exists for Bluetooth connections. This is one of the primary problems, by the way, that the CCC linked above wants to solve.

 

Sony may have figured out how to get basic on-screen Pandora support working over BT, but I bet it wasn't easy, and I am certain it's proprietary to Sony. The plain, hard fact is we are two or more years away from seeing widespread support for "Smart Phone" integration that doesn't involve Apple.

Edited Mar 18, 2011 by Ixian
Posted Mar 19, 2011 · 00:21 UTC#17

Very well put and I have been saying this for almost a year to all the people that complain about the lack of Android support. Several years away indeed. If this catches on however, I am sure Pioneer will likely join in. But for now to them this looks like a fad that may fissile before in catches on and produces change in the industry.

Posted Jul 15, 2011 · 16:20 UTC#18

Im an Android user and a Pandora listener. And with my phone Samsung Captivate (Rooted- MosaicV-ROM) I can play, listen, and control Pandora with my AVIC X920BT HU just fine. It switches to receive a phone call and changes back just fine. Only thing is that it does not display album covers like the Iphone link does, but who cares I can listen to Pandora just fine.

Posted Jul 16, 2011 · 02:34 UTC#19

Is this over BT or USB.

Posted Jul 26, 2011 · 03:58 UTC#20

Hello everyone, currently I use the Optimus V, OS 2.2 Android with Pandora and the x920bt and it works nicely on Bluetooth but no controls except play/pause from the head unit,I use the phone to skip songs I don't like the sound is pretty good even on regular quality.