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x910bt A/V harness with x710bt

By durag5 · May 12, 2010in Hacks/Mods💬 25 posts👁️ 3,321 views
Posted May 12, 2010 · 01:56 UTC#1

I understand this is the F forum, but i think the hardware might be the same.

 

I am trying to possibly get video out on my x710bt. Has anyone seen if this would work. i understand there would be no settings screen for video out.

 

First, would the harness even connect to a x710bt?

Second, has anyone heard anyone trying this? It was suggested by a tech at pioneer to attempt it, but at $50 it is a pretty expensive test.

 

My assumption is that if it worked it would just constantly output the video source.

Posted May 12, 2010 · 02:08 UTC#2

It should work, I'd actually appreciate it if someone could post a pic of this harness with the pinouts, because my AVIC-F90bt didn't come with it and I had to use my F700 AV harness.

Posted May 12, 2010 · 02:36 UTC#3

If there is no pin to connect to the harness on the back of the unit its not going to work.

Posted May 12, 2010 · 18:40 UTC#4
If there is no pin to connect to the harness on the back of the unit its not going to work.

 

Does anyone have a pic of the pin layouts? A side-by-side shot would be very helpful! Thank you in advance!

Posted May 12, 2010 · 22:53 UTC#5

There are pins on my F700bt VBlue, I am gonna say theres a 95% chance they are on the 710 as well. If someone posts the pin outs or a picture of their harness i will make a video out and try it on my f90 and f700 :)

Posted May 13, 2010 · 13:15 UTC#6
There are pins on my F700bt VBlue, I am gonna say theres a 95% chance they are on the 710 as well. If someone posts the pin outs or a picture of their harness i will make a video out and try it on my f90 and f700 :)

 

Thank you! you will be saving me at least $50 if it does not work!

Posted May 14, 2010 · 13:59 UTC#7
There are pins on my F700bt VBlue, I am gonna say theres a 95% chance they are on the 710 as well. If someone posts the pin outs or a picture of their harness i will make a video out and try it on my f90 and f700 :)

The pins for the F700bt is the same as the X710bt and in the same location.... HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE AND IT WILL NOT WORK!! This has been confirmed!! The only harness that is interchangeable is the AV harness, but NOT THE POWER HARNESS!!

Posted May 14, 2010 · 16:36 UTC#8
There are pins on my F700bt VBlue, I am gonna say theres a 95% chance they are on the 710 as well. If someone posts the pin outs or a picture of their harness i will make a video out and try it on my f90 and f700 :)

The pins for the F700bt is the same as the X710bt and in the same location.... HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE AND IT WILL NOT WORK!! This has been confirmed!! The only harness that is interchangeable is the AV harness, but NOT THE POWER HARNESS!!

 

 

The A/V harness is the one i want to change. So you are saying this would work? If someone has tried it do you know if that had Video out after trying it?

 

I am not concerned with the power harness.

Posted May 14, 2010 · 20:15 UTC#9
The only harness that is interchangeable is the AV harness, but NOT THE POWER HARNESS!!

 

Actually thats backwards. The power harness is interchangeable but not the AV. Its not going to work.

Posted May 15, 2010 · 01:31 UTC#10
The only harness that is interchangeable is the AV harness, but NOT THE POWER HARNESS!!

 

Actually thats backwards. The power harness is interchangeable but not the AV. Its not going to work.

Nope, trust me on this, I went from an F700bt to n X910BT. Pioneer told me that the AV would work in both but the power harness would not. I did not believe them as the pin configuration was identical in the power harness, but when I tried it, it did not work and they were right :(. So I kept the AV harness the same and attached it to my X910, and then used the power harness that I was supposed to use and then it worked. I contacted Pioneer again afterwards because I was stumped as to why the power harness would not work in my X910bt even though the pins were the same. Lol, their response was "It just doesn't"

Posted May 15, 2010 · 01:47 UTC#11

Actually your right about the AV harness but that does not make sense about the power harness. That harness has been interchangeable from then D3, to the F series, to the Z110BT so the idea that it isn't interchangeable from the 7 series to the 9 series and vice versa is certainly strange.

Posted May 15, 2010 · 01:49 UTC#12

The only difference in the 7 series harness and the 9 series harness is the VSS. Maybe thats why.

Posted May 15, 2010 · 18:17 UTC#13
The only harness that is interchangeable is the AV harness, but NOT THE POWER HARNESS!!

 

Actually thats backwards. The power harness is interchangeable but not the AV. Its not going to work.

Nope, trust me on this, I went from an F700bt to n X910BT. Pioneer told me that the AV would work in both but the power harness would not. I did not believe them as the pin configuration was identical in the power harness, but when I tried it, it did not work and they were right :(. So I kept the AV harness the same and attached it to my X910, and then used the power harness that I was supposed to use and then it worked. I contacted Pioneer again afterwards because I was stumped as to why the power harness would not work in my X910bt even though the pins were the same. Lol, their response was "It just doesn't"

 

Well you are the guy i need to talk to then. Did you ever look at the input on both units on the back? did you see if all the pins were in the x910bt were also in the f700bt ? Basically they could be interchangeable but the f700bt might have a slot with no pin making that pin on the harness unusable i.e. no a/v out.

Posted May 15, 2010 · 21:24 UTC#14
Well you are the guy i need to talk to then. Did you ever look at the input on both units on the back? did you see if all the pins were in the x910bt were also in the f700bt ? Basically they could be interchangeable but the f700bt might have a slot with no pin making that pin on the harness unusable i.e. no a/v out.
You're making this *WAY* harder then it needs to be, Abb1 give you everything you need to know, he went from an F700 to an F910, and the AV harness was the same, that will translate to the 7010, you don't need to have the minutia of having someone confirm that every single pin and every single color is identical.

 

Pioneer isn't dumb, it isn't cost effective to change harnesses every year for every model.

Posted May 17, 2010 · 12:57 UTC#15
Well you are the guy i need to talk to then. Did you ever look at the input on both units on the back? did you see if all the pins were in the x910bt were also in the f700bt ? Basically they could be interchangeable but the f700bt might have a slot with no pin making that pin on the harness unusable i.e. no a/v out.
You're making this *WAY* harder then it needs to be, Abb1 give you everything you need to know, he went from an F700 to an F910, and the AV harness was the same, that will translate to the 7010, you don't need to have the minutia of having someone confirm that every single pin and every single color is identical.

 

Pioneer isn't dumb, it isn't cost effective to change harnesses every year for every model.

 

You have obviously missed the whole point of the thread. Its fine if you don't want to read it, but please don't comment.

 

To catch you up:

 

7 series does not have video out on its harness - 9 series has video out on harness

I want video out on my 7 series with a 9 harness

 

1. Things we have found out - everything on the 7 harness will work on the 9 unit

2. Things we are still waiting to hear about - everything on the 9 harness(video out - why i need to know about the pins) works on 7 unit.

Posted May 17, 2010 · 14:25 UTC#16

Ok two things, one hardware and one software. If there are no pins on the back of the 700 to cary the signal of out of the unit to and output, it's not going to work. If there are no settings in the software to deal with video out, it's not going to work. You are the one that wants to know this so you look at your unit and find the answer yourself. The harness at this point is really irrelevent if the unit won't support what you want it to. So you should not need anyone else to do anything for you on this. Now please move on before I have to lock this thread.

Posted May 18, 2010 · 03:34 UTC#17
Ok two things, one hardware and one software. If there are no pins on the back of the 700 to cary the signal of out of the unit to and output, it's not going to work. If there are no settings in the software to deal with video out, it's not going to work. You are the one that wants to know this so you look at your unit and find the answer yourself. The harness at this point is really irrelevent if the unit won't support what you want it to. So you should not need anyone else to do anything for you on this. Now please move on before I have to lock this thread.

 

Are you joking? the most important thing for me to know is whats on the back of the 900 harness.

 

I don't need the pins on the 700 like you said. That is not what i really wanted. I first asked if anyone knows if this would work. Then i realized no one did. At this point i need to know what the pins are in the back of a 900 harness. if i don't know this it doesn't matter what i see on the back of my 700. I need to find which pin is the video on the harness of the 900 to see if i have a corresponding pin on the back of my 700. I do not agree with your statement about the software. It is entirely possible that the video would just mimic whats on the screen with no software supporting it if its in the firmware and hardware.

 

why is everyone so quick brush people off these forums? is this not the point of the forum hacks/mods? people are incredibly rude. :roll:

Posted May 18, 2010 · 06:20 UTC#18

The only people that get brushed off here are noobs that don't seem to be able to help themselves and constantly need someone to hold their hand. As I said, if there is no pin on the unit, its not going to work. Look at the damned unit.

Posted May 18, 2010 · 13:44 UTC#19
The only people that get brushed off here are noobs that don't seem to be able to help themselves and constantly need someone to hold their hand. As I said, if there is no pin on the unit, its not going to work. Look at the damned unit.

 

I'm not sure who the noob is. Clearly i would need to someone to look at a 900 harness and tell me which pin is the video out. Video out is LABELED on the harness. There are no labels that tell you what pins are what on the 700. I would need to see something like:

 

900 A/V HARNESS

x|x|x|o|x

^

Video out (labeled with a tag on the wire)

 

Then see if i have a pin in that location on my 700. I really am missing how this is possible to do this without the 900 harness. I am hardly a noob. It is clear that because you don't understand you are taking it out on me. This information will benefit other people. This is literally the point of the forums.

 

This is the first time I've had to fight a moderator for simple information. I do not have access to the information i need without spending $50. Hundreds of people on this forum have this harness. No drama please I just want to get this figured out.

Posted May 18, 2010 · 13:51 UTC#20

Go to Pioneer's site and download the installation manual for the 910. Locate the AV out harness illustration there and then determine if there is a pin on the back of your unit that will match the harness.

Posted May 18, 2010 · 17:48 UTC#21
Go to Pioneer's site and download the installation manual for the 910. Locate the AV out harness illustration there and then determine if there is a pin on the back of your unit that will match the harness.

 

 

700 and 900 have the same installation manual. It does not give this information. it does say that the 900 has it and in on picture it shows the wire being on the far left. This is just for ease of reading because the picture only shows 4 wires which is obviously incorrect. i attached the picture. This is the first thing i check before trying to find a forum.

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Posted May 19, 2010 · 17:58 UTC#22

I've got to pull my 910 out tonight when the official dash kit gets here so I'll tell you what # pin the video out cable goes to...

Posted May 20, 2010 · 05:28 UTC#23

Thanks unferth!

Posted May 21, 2010 · 14:27 UTC#24

Sorry it's been a while since I got back to you.. I didn't have a chance to check yet.. hopefully soon though :)

Posted Jun 02, 2010 · 18:23 UTC#25

any update? thank you for doing this for us.