App Radio has been returned, the latest firmware 2.45 was the breaking point, even with 2.22 pioneer made this unit so much harder to use than it should have. Swapped to the new Pioneer AVH-P4400BH, does just about the same thing other than not as many apps that I never used anyway. As long as motion x and pandora work I'm good. And the brake bypass works, no freaking warning screen on start up and boot time is 5 sec. Maybe in a few years they will have the app radio better sorted.

Don't blame you, I'm thinking about buying a book on CEWIN programming and starting from scratch. Pioneer is blowing it!!!!!

im still debating if i should return it also.. i just got it two weeks ago and im not liking the new firmware.