I've looked around and haven't found any news on this yet, but I'm curious if Pioneer has made any tweaks to the Nav system.

I've been eyeballing the z140 for some time while I waited for my bonus to kick in, but one of the prevailing thoughts is that the Nav seems to take people on odd routes.  Granted, that could just be people complaining excessively, but I'm not sure.

Has anyone heard any hints about whether or not this is being addressed?  Or frankly, are those concerns justified?

Right now with that z140 on Amazon for $650, it's tempting to just go for it anyway.

I would wait for the Z150 instead. It won't be that much longer until it's available. In fact I've heard 1 dealer can get hold of them already. It is going to cost quite a bit more than the Z140. I rather wait and do comparison. In the meantime, you can always download the Z150 install and operation manuel from Pioneer website to take a look at the install procedure and its features. I know I will be connecting a USB hard drive to the new unit when I get it later this month ( suppose to be available in March 2013 )

I am definitely waiting for the z150, have been for a month now.

mowmow, when do you think they will be released in March?  Middle or towards the end?  I've seen a few sites that have posted a "release date" of March 30th.

Also, I have been watching the official Pioneer site for the Z150 which stated a MSRP of $1500 for the past several weeks.  Yesterday I pulled up the site and it now says $1200 MSRP.  Any reason that I should be worried that Pioneer has dropped the price on a unit that hasn't even released yet?  I'm just overreacting I'm sure.

I'm leaning this way too - waiting.  Also hoping they make some changes to the interface.  I've heard a few people complaining about usability while driving.

hitman - I spoke to Cartoys and they told me that they've got a bunch headed to their wharehouse and expect to have them in the stores in the beginning of April.  As far as their price, he anticipated $1,100.  We'll see as this is all speculation at this point.

I'll download that manual and see what type of clues I can glean as far as changes are concerned.

Okay ran into the local Pioneer rep today, avialable April 1/2013 in Canada.  It looks good.  As far as price, seems that $1200.00 is the going retail for a unit like this. 

I'm also trying to decide whether or not to get the z140 or wait for the z150. They always advertise some astronomical MSRP and it ends up being way cheaper on sites like Amazon. I'm expecting it to be about $899 on amazon when it's released. However, I really want to take advantage of the $631 price on amazon now. The only thing I know I really would like better on the z150 is the HDMI input and better nav. Pioneers navigation has always sucked. I will likely just use my phone anyways. Then I could always use the MHL connector to view google nav on my screen anyways. Decisions decisions. 

I'm looking forward to the reviews of the Z150. What I want to know is how snappy is the GUI. Is it fast or does it crawl like a turtle? I'm honestly debating between the Z150 and the Alpine INE-W927HD. 

I dug into the manuals and it looks like there are some minor UI changes on the Nav that seem to make it easier to use.  The only question is how functional it'll be when on the road..... and of course how long it takes someone to figure out the bypass.

While very tempted to jump on the Amazon deal, I'm thinking that if I've held out this long, I can wait a couple months more for the UI improvement.

WOW, amazon price is $614.98 today, tempting, but the Android integration is in the new model....

I dug into the manuals and it looks like there are some minor UI changes on the Nav that seem to make it easier to use.  The only question is how functional it'll be when on the road..... and of course how long it takes someone to figure out the bypass.

 

While very tempted to jump on the Amazon deal, I'm thinking that if I've held out this long, I can wait a couple months more for the UI improvement.

I'm waiting to find out the bypass info too but I think I'm going with an X950BH but that should be the same process I would hope?  When I had the old N3, there was a switch under the unit but I think with the later models it required one of the wires to change its pin position within the molex connector?  I can't quite remember.

Does anyone know if the z150 will have any kind of Voice Recognition features? It doesn't show anything on pioneers website. Thanks

Does anyone know if the z150 will have any kind of Voice Recognition features? It doesn't show anything on pioneers website. Thanks

read the owners manual available on pioneer site. If it doesnt mention it, then it is not there...

One of my Pioneer dealer friend was able to get hold of the new Z150Bh the other day, Unfortunately he hasn't got it hooked up for display.

One of my Pioneer dealer friend was able to get hold of the new Z150Bh the other day, Unfortunately he hasn't got it hooked up for display.

Cool story bro

I have my z150 installed. Anxiously waiting for bypass info. Very satisfied so far.

Funny thing, it's advertised as being built for iPhone 5 and Android yet it isn't compatible at all with the iPhone 5 out of the box. Called Pioneer and they informed me that the firmware update for iPhone 5 compatibility will be released in the next couple of weeks. Just thought that was strange.

I have my z150 installed. Anxiously waiting for bypass info. Very satisfied so far.

 

Funny thing, it's advertised as being built for iPhone 5 and Android yet it isn't compatible at all with the iPhone 5 out of the box. Called Pioneer and they informed me that the firmware update for iPhone 5 compatibility will be released in the next couple of weeks. Just thought that was strange.

Maybe you could boot into testmode and copy navi.exe. With the exe, maybe pionara could see if he can patch-away the PB nag screen, as described here http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/35315-soft-parking-brake-mod-aka-safe-mode-bypass-menu/

I have my z150 installed. Anxiously waiting for bypass info. Very satisfied so far.

 

Funny thing, it's advertised as being built for iPhone 5 and Android yet it isn't compatible at all with the iPhone 5 out of the box. Called Pioneer and they informed me that the firmware update for iPhone 5 compatibility will be released in the next couple of weeks. Just thought that was strange.

Not sure on the 150, but the bypass listed for the 850 and 950 works well.  If the connector is the same, I would say its worth a shot. http://avic411.com/index.php?/topic/36184-avic-x850bt-bypass/

I would try that, noxguy, but I'm afraid of damaging the radio if it isn't the bypass pin.

I can't remember off hand but I believe there were no empty pins on the z150 RCA harness beside of the mute wire (on the same row). I believe the empty pins were on the opposite row, just above (or below, depending how you look) of the mute wire. I think there were 3 empty pins. This is all by memory so I could be completely wrong.

Just not sure which to try and am afraid of damaging it.

Just installed my z150 yesterday. I don't believe the pin bypass will work but I may be wrong. I found that it may also depend on gps data that locks up the controls as well. Anyone working on patching the exe yet?

If somebody is willing to give me a dump of some files and do some testing, on z150 or x950, and has access to one, let me know...

pionara, do you think it would be better to wait on the firmware update that Pioneer will be releasing in the next week or two?

The update will add in the iPhone 5 compatibility so I will have to grab it.

I have been waiting for update as well. they make you buy an additional $100 worth of cables then wait wait for firmware.

Also, when i first installed unit i did the old relay bypass, ran my car up and down the while watching DVD....life was good. Now since then if I go over 5 mph video shuts off? Any ideas why it worked the first time and now doesn't any new bypass out there?

The relay bypass is not the correct bypass.