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By scotty3x3 · Mar 18, 2014in NEX Series💬 25 posts👁️ 8,719 views
Posted Mar 18, 2014 · 20:35 UTC#1

So i picked up my AVH-4000NEX yesterday and got it installed. So far my overall impressions are very positive. The unit is quick and responsive. Haven't found any annoying bugs yet, but I'm sure they are coming.

 

The one problem I am having it connectivity with my iPhone 5. I have a standard HDMI cable (not the $50 pioneer cable kit) and the USB extension cable that came with the radio. I have both of these cables connected to the back of the radio. I have the HDMI cable connected to the genuine Apple lightning to AV adapter, and I have the geniun apple lightning to usb cable connected to the USB cable. I can get into AppRadio mode perfectly. I can play Netflix, YouTube, Waze and everything just as I would expect. I can go into the HDMI input and watch videos as expected. However, when I go to the iPod/USB 1 input, I get a message that tells me "Device Incompatible" and I can't play anything from the iPod app in the iPhone. Pandora works perfectly through the cable also. Any ideas?

 

Also, if anyone would like any pics or videos of the unit and functionality, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Posted Mar 18, 2014 · 20:38 UTC#2

Did you hook up the iDatalink module with it to get car diagnostics?

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 00:37 UTC#3

My car doesn't support the data like tire pressure and what not. I did buy the iDataLink Maestro SW module to retain all of my steering wheel controls and it works flawlessly.

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 16:08 UTC#4

My car doesn't support Maestro either.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to support the Maestro SW module either.....I don't see Audi listed anywhere on idatalink's site.

 

I'll just get the PAC-audio kit.  It's universally compatible, and is ultimately my shop's problem to program.

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 16:21 UTC#5

post up pictures!! :ph34r:

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 17:13 UTC#6

I've been looking into iPad Mini custom dash mounting options (since my shop does that).  Only thing stopping me is the fact that tablet mounts aren't very well sync'd with your car.  Steering wheel controls....screen brightness adjustments whenever you turn on/off your headlights, etc....forget about all that.

 

It's a damn shame too, because I've been reading about an iPad app called DashBox and it's soooo damn pretty....along with the fact that a 128GB LTE equipped iPad Mini is only $830, by comparison to an 8000NEX which is ~ $1400 before installation.

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 17:37 UTC#7

I thought about the iPad mini route also, but essentially you still need a head unit to sync the iPad to in order to get the audio out to your amp/speakers. So you need the iPad plus the cost of a head unit, which is still a cheaper option, just something to think about.

 

I'll go snap some pictures after this meeting I'm about to walk into.

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 20:20 UTC#8

sorry - confused about something...so if you had, for examples movies, music videos, tv shows on the iPhone 5, then you can watch those on the Pioneer screen via the Apple AV/HDMI connection?

Posted Mar 19, 2014 · 20:27 UTC#9

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 However, when I go to the iPod/USB 1 input, I get a message that tells me "Device Incompatible" and I can't play anything from the iPod app in the iPhone. Pandora works perfectly through the cable also. Any ideas?

 

 

 

I do not think that this is possible, at least it is not with the Appraido, This part of the stereo is if you have I phone 4 with the other connection.  The Ipod button does not work if you are using digital AV you will more then likely need to get an app to play your music.

Posted Mar 20, 2014 · 01:54 UTC#10

sorry - confused about something...so if you had, for examples movies, music videos, tv shows on the iPhone 5, then you can watch those on the Pioneer screen via the Apple AV/HDMI connection?

This is correct. With the hdmi port and the apple lightning to av adapter, I can stream movies on here. Best part of this is I can stream Thomas the Train from Netflix for my son when he starts getting cranky from being in his seat for long periods of time! :-)

Posted Mar 20, 2014 · 13:36 UTC#11

Is the bypass the same as the older avic units?

Posted Mar 20, 2014 · 14:37 UTC#12

Thought I would add to this.  I also installed a 4000NEX.  Using a Galaxy S4 with Cyanogen 10.2.1(4.3) clean install I am having app radio issues.  I am using appradio unchained.  I can get it to connect(sometimes) but when I do, I get a squished screen because there is a menu on the left side that I don't know how to get rid of so it won't go full screen.  If I switch to just the HDMI input I do get a full screen image.  Going to try and figure out what the deal is.  I am using this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3TTA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 cable.  

Edited Mar 20, 2014 by dykast
Posted Mar 20, 2014 · 18:02 UTC#13

ok, you said "streaming".  I assume you mean from Netflix via your iPhone 5 mobile connection.

 

What if you had videos "stored" on the iPhones drive....can you watch those as well?  is there any HDCP Copyright protection stuff over the HDMI that prevents that - whether you rip your own videos or are trying to play videos downloaded from iTunes, for example?

Posted Mar 21, 2014 · 03:36 UTC#14

Is the bypass the same as the older avic units?

Not positive. I didn't have an older AVIC unit so I don't know how they were bypassed. This one is bypassed with a bypass cable I bought from the stereo shop. It has three cables (black, green, and blue) that connect to the radios harness and the other end of the cables are all grouped together under a black cover so you can't see anything. It was incredibly simple actually.

Posted Mar 21, 2014 · 03:37 UTC#15

Thought I would add to this. I also installed a 4000NEX. Using a Galaxy S4 with Cyanogen 10.2.1(4.3) clean install I am having app radio issues. I am using appradio unchained. I can get it to connect(sometimes) but when I do, I get a squished screen because there is a menu on the left side that I don't know how to get rid of so it won't go full screen. If I switch to just the HDMI input I do get a full screen image. Going to try and figure out what the deal is. I am using this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3TTA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 cable.

I have the same vertical menu on the left hand side and cannot get the apps full screen unless switching to hdmi input. I have also found a bug that the radio switches you back to the input you are using while navigating menus. Sometimes it takes 10 seconds, sometimes 2 and sometimes it doesn't do it at all... but it's clearly a bug.

Posted Mar 21, 2014 · 03:38 UTC#16

ok, you said "streaming". I assume you mean from Netflix via your iPhone 5 mobile connection.

 

What if you had videos "stored" on the iPhones drive....can you watch those as well? is there any HDCP Copyright protection stuff over the HDMI that prevents that - whether you rip your own videos or are trying to play videos downloaded from iTunes, for example?

I don't have any videos on my iPhone currently. I will try to get some on there and give this a shot tomorrow night after work.

Posted Mar 21, 2014 · 05:25 UTC#17

I don't have any videos on my iPhone currently. I will try to get some on there and give this a shot tomorrow night after work.

thanks

Posted Mar 22, 2014 · 09:07 UTC#18

Thought I would add to this.  I also installed a 4000NEX.  Using a Galaxy S4 with Cyanogen 10.2.1(4.3) clean install I am having app radio issues.  I am using appradio unchained.  I can get it to connect(sometimes) but when I do, I get a squished screen because there is a menu on the left side that I don't know how to get rid of so it won't go full screen.  If I switch to just the HDMI input I do get a full screen image.  Going to try and figure out what the deal is.  I am using this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3TTA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 cable.  

 

Does Multilink not work?

 

I've had erratic behavior of AppMode in my S4 on the Z150. It sounds like it still sucks.

Posted Mar 22, 2014 · 19:43 UTC#19

so does the 4000 model have a glass capacitive touch screen?  or plastic resistive?

Posted Mar 23, 2014 · 01:49 UTC#20

only the 8000 has the capacitive touch screen.

Posted Mar 23, 2014 · 21:07 UTC#21

I picked up a 4000NEX for my car.  Got it installed yesterday. The sound quality is noticeably better and warmer than my Kenwood KDC-X997.  It plays CDs, streams media over Bluetooth, which connects faster than the Kenwood did.  HDRadio works, and it plays 24bit/96KHz FLAC audio.  The touchscreen is fast and responsive, and the UI is really great.

 

What doesn't work though, is the USB functionality and SDHC functionality.  The unit will not address SDHC media containing more than 2GB worth of files.  I tried a 4GB, 16GB, and 32GB SDHC cards.  It addresses SD cards just fine, but they are limited to 2GB in size. I've formatted the media to Fat32, exFat, and NTFS.  The HU doesn't support exFat.  It does support NTFS and Fat32. It reads NTFS and FAT32 fine, but only up to 2GB.  Beyond that, it chokes. It does not address MSC devices consistently.  I have tried two different Sansa MP3 players, and multiple USB flash drives (64GB, 16GB, 2GB, 1GB).  Only one flash drive has worked, which was generic, and only 1GB in size.  The Kenwood X997 interacted with the Sansa players and USB media with no issues.  So I know it's not the media devices.

 

I sent Pioneer support an email yesterday after troubleshooting.  I'll be calling them Monday morning to follow-up on it.  Hopefully it's something simple like a firmware issue or a defective unit.  But so far, it's turning out a bit disappointing. 

Posted Mar 28, 2014 · 18:16 UTC#22

have you hooked it up to any Apple iOS 7 device yet?

Posted Mar 28, 2014 · 18:51 UTC#23

Thought I would add to this.  I also installed a 4000NEX.  Using a Galaxy S4 with Cyanogen 10.2.1(4.3) clean install I am having app radio issues.  I am using appradio unchained.  I can get it to connect(sometimes) but when I do, I get a squished screen because there is a menu on the left side that I don't know how to get rid of so it won't go full screen.  If I switch to just the HDMI input I do get a full screen image.  Going to try and figure out what the deal is.  I am using this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3TTA/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 cable.  

On page 112 of the owner's manual: http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Car/AVIC-7000NEX_OperationManual030714.pdf it shows you how to adjust the screen size for use with Android devices

 

I have the same vertical menu on the left hand side and cannot get the apps full screen unless switching to hdmi input. I have also found a bug that the radio switches you back to the input you are using while navigating menus. Sometimes it takes 10 seconds, sometimes 2 and sometimes it doesn't do it at all... but it's clearly a bug.

Press the Home button (the phyiscal button with four squares on it) twice- it'll hide the vertical menu.

Edited Mar 28, 2014 by ibcr8iv
Posted Mar 29, 2014 · 02:40 UTC#24

Pressing the home button twice worked perfectly. Now I can see my waze app in full screen... almost. I have a thin black bar that runs across the top of the screen. Sometimes the app seems to "adjust" and I end up with rounded corners and a black bar around the entire app, not just the top. I'm assuming this is a bug, but I don't know if it's a radio bug or a waze bug. I would take a picture but as soon as I touch the camera app, I will lose the app mode screen on the radio. lol

Posted Apr 03, 2014 · 17:34 UTC#25

I was reading another thread that said the screen size for the apps can be changed in the Input/Output settings on the head unit. I have this menu, but it is always greyed out so I am unable to go into that menu and change any sizes. The problem I have is that the Waze app fills up left to right and bottom perfect, but I have a black bar across the top. Anyone know if this is just not possible on the 4000 even though the menu option is there?