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App mode not working

By Sebas718 · Apr 26, 2014in NEX Series💬 22 posts👁️ 7,669 views
Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 13:21 UTC#1

I connect my iPhone through USB and APP thing shows greyed out with an X. 

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 13:35 UTC#2

Connect to usb1 with hdmi with digital av connector using hdmi and lightning cable, go into settings,then smartphone setup on the nex and chose digital av adapter, download the app, make sure your phone is unlocked so u can click allow on your phone and you should be up and running,download any other apps you chose to use. In waze on your phone you have to go to settings and set it to allow external device

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 13:41 UTC#3

Can you send me link of the cable i need i can't find one

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 13:57 UTC#4

the 5000 doesn't have a hdmi port, i think. i confused 

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 15:47 UTC#5

did you download the appradio app on your phone?? 

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 15:50 UTC#6

The 5000nex doesnt have HDMI port. So you need to connect the phone to USB1 for Iphones. And download the app. The app will not work if you dont have the appradio app installed. I really dont think you need the Pioneer cable which is just a lightning cable.

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 16:18 UTC#7

Kind of curious how AppRadio mode would work without an hdmi adapter on the iPhone. The hdmi provides the video through to the head unit and I don't know which apps you could take advantage of without video. I'm thinking (and this is just a theory as I haven't researched it) that you WOULD need a special pioneer cable. A buddy of mine has a 4S and he bought the cable that has USB and the yellow pioneer plug on one end and 30pin on the other. They also sell a cable like this with lightning instead of 30pin I believe and I would think you would have to use that to get the AppRadio mode working. I have the AppRadio app and when I set the unit to USB and plug in lightning to USB1 on the radio, I do not have access to AppRadio mode.

Posted Apr 26, 2014 · 17:18 UTC#8

I believe u need the lightning cable for iPhone 5 and the RGB CABLE, u have to look in the installation manual, it could be called VGA CABLE, And the apple adapter

Edited Apr 26, 2014 by tekki
Posted Apr 29, 2014 · 23:33 UTC#9

I just had a 5000 nex installed on Sunday. I'm unable to get appradio to work with my iphine 5. When the phone is connected. The main screen shows a blue App icon with a white x in the upper left. Touch screen does nothing there. Navi and other functions work. The unit came with a USB extension cable but it was too short to get to where I wanted it (I have a 2002 Toyota avalon). I used a black 10 foot belkin USB to lightning cable to get the necessary reach into my center console/armrest cubby. I also had another cable run from the second USB out to the center console using a micro USB cable, as my phone has a battery case that uses a micro USB connector. It's apple certified and I can do a wire sync to my mac with that case on the phone.

 

Bluetooth works. Connecting to either USB cable (with/without the battery case on) works. Music plays. It pulls album artwork. The phone functions are there when the bluetooth connection is on. (Not when on either cable, with bluetooth off - I don't know if that's normal). I went through the setup screen and set up the phone per documentation.

 

I have the appradio app installed on my phone, along with car browser app and and car media player app (which I found through the app radio app)

 

When I press the apps button, there are no apps present. Is there something special about the CD-IU52 cable mentioned in the installation manual that you need the mothership cable or is this really just USB out the back of the unit?

 

Any insight is appreciated.

 

-Marith

Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 00:11 UTC#10

I just had a 5000 nex installed on Sunday. I'm unable to get appradio to work with my iphine 5. When the phone is connected. The main screen shows a blue App icon with a white x in the upper left. Touch screen does nothing there. Navi and other functions work. The unit came with a USB extension cable but it was too short to get to where I wanted it (I have a 2002 Toyota avalon). I used a black 10 foot belkin USB to lightning cable to get the necessary reach into my center console/armrest cubby. I also had another cable run from the second USB out to the center console using a micro USB cable, as my phone has a battery case that uses a micro USB connector. It's apple certified and I can do a wire sync to my mac with that case on the phone.

Bluetooth works. Connecting to either USB cable (with/without the battery case on) works. Music plays. It pulls album artwork. The phone functions are there when the bluetooth connection is on. (Not when on either cable, with bluetooth off - I don't know if that's normal). I went through the setup screen and set up the phone per documentation.

I have the appradio app installed on my phone, along with car browser app and and car media player app (which I found through the app radio app)

When I press the apps button, there are no apps present. Is there something special about the CD-IU52 cable mentioned in the installation manual that you need the mothership cable or is this really just USB out the back of the unit?

Any insight is appreciated.

-Marith

You need to set smartphone setup as digital av adapter also

 

You need the lightning to VGA adapter from apple and you also need the VGA cable from pioneer.

forI iPhone (CD-IV202AV) (sold separa

 

If you search the forum you will see the installation manual has been posted and it will show you what ya need.

Edited Apr 30, 2014 by tekki
Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 02:46 UTC#11

I find two similar items. Almost identical product numbers and descriptions

 

Pioneer CDIV202NAVI AppRadio Mode VGA Interface Cable Kit for iPhone 5

Pioneer CDIV202AV AppRadio Mode VGA Interface Cable Kit for iPhone 5

 

Are these in fact the same thing?

Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 10:42 UTC#12

I have an iPhone 5 with a 7000NEX, I went through all this hoopla to get the app mode to work and honestly it sucks, if I were to do it all again I wouldn't ever bother,  I just use a lighting cable and I am very happy.  The other consideration is that car play is coming at some point and we do not know how that is going to connect.  I really wouldn't bother with app mode at this point IMHO

 

Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 12:21 UTC#13

I find two similar items. Almost identical product numbers and descriptions

Pioneer CDIV202NAVI AppRadio Mode VGA Interface Cable Kit for iPhone 5

Pioneer CDIV202AV AppRadio Mode VGA Interface Cable Kit for iPhone 5

Are these in fact the same thing?

In looking at the cables there is no such connector on the back of the unit for the CDIV202navi "square connector"

That angle square plug is not used for nex units per my conversation with pioneer.

 

In the installation manual it shows CDIV202av

 

Under accessories on web site it shows the same

 

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Accessories/Smartphone-and-iPod-Cables/CD-IV202AV

Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 16:17 UTC#14

I'm trying to get AppMode working with my iPad3 using a 30-pin digital av connector using hdmi / USB port 1 and it either:

  1. Doesn't do anything.
  2. Sometimes the app connects, but the radio doesn't.
  3. Sometimes the Radio connects but the app doesn't.

Any suggestions? Is this just not meant to work?

T.I.A.

 

P.S. HDMI does mirror the iPad when in HDMI mode really well. Guess who's SlingBoxing to the NEX????

Edited Apr 30, 2014 by mikemaan
Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 16:23 UTC#15

Thanks for all the info.

Posted Apr 30, 2014 · 16:54 UTC#16

I'm trying to get AppMode working with my iPad3 using a 30-pin digital av connector using hdmi / USB port 1 and it either:

 

  • Doesn't do anything.
  • Sometimes the app connects, but the radio doesn't.
  • Sometimes the Radio connects but the app doesn't.
Any suggestions? Is this just not meant to work?

T.I.A.

 

P.S. HDMI does mirror the iPad when in HDMI mode really well. Guess who's SlingBoxing to the NEX????

Awesome sling is idea :) kudos

 

Is your ipad connected to USB 1, and you have chosen digital adapter in smartphone setup, all should be good.

Posted May 14, 2014 · 23:18 UTC#17

next wrinkle:

 

 

have the cdiv202-av cable installed. I have to say that the apple VGA to lightning adapter has a painfully short cable and that lightning extension cables stupidly expensive, but that's not the wrinkle. Just a complaint.

 

What I'm experiencing is what an 'incompatible USB' error message when plugged into the vga lightning adapter but not when plugged into the stock lightning cable that's plugged into that is plugged into the downstream USB cable coming from the cdiv202-av cable. only when that cable is plugged into the apple VGA adapter and the output of that adapter. 

 

I've read that previous models in 2013 showed this error and that a firmware update came out to address it.  Is there an iPhone 5 related firmware update for the avic-5000 nex? Pioneer's nigh unto useless website does not seem to indicate a firmware update is available but I felt my search results were inconclusive.

Posted May 14, 2014 · 23:34 UTC#18

next wrinkle:

 

 

have the cdiv202-av cable installed. I have to say that the apple VGA to lightning adapter has a painfully short cable and that lightning extension cables stupidly expensive, but that's not the wrinkle. Just a complaint.

 

What I'm experiencing is what an 'incompatible USB' error message when plugged into the vga lightning adapter but not when plugged into the stock lightning cable that's plugged into that is plugged into the downstream USB cable coming from the cdiv202-av cable. only when that cable is plugged into the apple VGA adapter and the output of that adapter. 

 

I've read that previous models in 2013 showed this error and that a firmware update came out to address it.  Is there an iPhone 5 related firmware update for the avic-5000 nex? Pioneer's nigh unto useless website does not seem to indicate a firmware update is available but I felt my search results were inconclusive.

In smartphone settings do u have the apple adapter selected when your plugged into the apple adapter, and then when you just use USB you have USB selected in smartphone setup

Posted May 15, 2014 · 00:36 UTC#19

It is because the apple av adapter, separates the audio/video and only uses the lightning cord to charge the phone. You can run lightning cord to car charger and utlize usb1 for something else.

Posted May 15, 2014 · 00:37 UTC#20

AppRadio uses bluetooth and hdmi only,

Posted May 17, 2014 · 03:46 UTC#21

Awesome sling is idea :) kudos

 

Is your ipad connected to USB 1, and you have chosen digital adapter in smartphone setup, all should be good.

 

Slingbox works great! Yes: USB1 and DigitalAV mode, but it's not happy. iPhone4 works using same setup, same cables, but not the iPad3. :?  

Posted May 17, 2014 · 14:00 UTC#22

The reason why the ipad3 is not working is because you need a stronger outlet to power the ipad. If you noticed at home that you cant charge the ipad using the computer, you have to plug it in to the wall outlet to charge the ipad. maybe someone else can chime in.