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No Car Play Plans For Waze :(

By VBLUE42 · May 25, 2014in NEX Series💬 17 posts👁️ 8,676 views
Posted May 25, 2014 · 16:52 UTC#1

PMd them on the Facebook page the other day about this and they responed that there were no plans at this time. Kinda disappointing. Waze is the only app I will miss once I go CP. Just putting this out there FYI.

Posted May 25, 2014 · 20:44 UTC#2

That's honestly enough to make me not use carplay. :-( in the 3 months that I've been using waze, I've only passed one police officer that wasn't tagged. I don't know that I can lose my waze app. :-(

Posted May 25, 2014 · 23:43 UTC#3

That's awful news.

Posted May 26, 2014 · 04:28 UTC#4

CP is a mode. Apps is still available in Pioneer mode. Should be easy to switch between the two using the mode button, or by pressing the Pioneer button in CP. Waze lives on!,

Posted May 26, 2014 · 05:04 UTC#5

You would have to swap the iphone connections though, as carplay will be lightning to USB only, while appradio is digital av to hdmi.

Posted May 26, 2014 · 10:16 UTC#6

I do not think Waze will say something about this now. I am an map editor in Waze and a beta editor of their iPhone app and they are doing finishing touches on version 3.8.

 

The "there were no plans at this time." answer may be because their priority is not that one. They are finishing a new version and like other companies, waiting for WWDC and see what Apple is going to tell developers about iOS 8 on June 2nd and see if carplay will be open for more companies other than the music apps they already have.

Posted May 26, 2014 · 10:44 UTC#7

Yeah I certainly don't think the answer they have me is permanent as long as Apple doesn't stand in the way. I just suspect we won't see it this year if we ever do. Also, with CP's heavy reliance on Siri, it makes it kinda hard to integrate third party apps until Apple starts opening up Siri for third party apps.

Edited May 26, 2014 by VBLUE42
Posted May 26, 2014 · 13:13 UTC#8

Perhaps people will start working on CP in the same way they did with AppMode. Maybe someone will "jailbreak" it so to speak and we will be able to manually add 3rd party apps.

Posted May 26, 2014 · 14:20 UTC#9

The problem Waze faces is that there just isn't any API for them to use in iOS 7. The only API CarPlay has right now in their dev documentation is how to provide CarPlay with music items in a structured way, and a means to let CarPlay tell you to start playing an item. Nothing to display any sort of UI yourself. Hacks could change this, as I'd wager Maps is using a private API to do its work, but it may take some time to get it working reliably.

 

Even if Waze wanted to jump in here, they can't until Apple widens the APIs around CarPlay that third parties can use. And that's ignoring the fact that you need special permission from Apple to use the CarPlay APIs in the first place. Waze's response is the diplomatic one when they just don't know if/when they might be able to deliver a feature.

Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 04:23 UTC#11

I'd use it through AppRadio if it wasn't a pain in the ass.

 

Anyway, CarPlay will be more and more important as the carmakers finally start rolling it out - so Waze will eventually get with the program. Right now I'd imagine that the numbers aren't there.

Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 08:27 UTC#12

If audio and Apple maps is all you want, CarPlay is adequate. But I want total control of my iPhone's apps(all of them), and use of all the inputs on my NEX, without changing cords, changing smartphone setup, every time i want to use an app made for our head units.  This whole NEX-CarPlay-AppRadio experience has been a continuing disappointment for me. It could be years before we see what a lot of us have envisioned since the arrival of the NEX head units and the hype that both companies have been dishing out. They should have put a disclaimer on every feature that reads,"may or may not work as advertised" i.e. AppRadio, Datalink, CarPlay, MirrorLink. 

By the way, this is just a RANT, that is all.

Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 18:54 UTC#13

My problems with Carplay are mostly Apple's fault.

(1) There are no CarPlay "apps" to support in-built radio functions. So you want to listen to XM? Go back out of Carplay to do so. Same with rear video entertainment, etc.

 

(2) They seem to pick and choose who gets to make a Carplay app. So Overcast got to make a podcast app, but no other maps app?

 

Anyway, maybe someone will jailbreak Carplay to create new Carplay apps. But, like I said before, it will take some time before there is enough critical mass to do it.

Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 21:06 UTC#14

My problems with Carplay are mostly Apple's fault.

 

(1) There are no CarPlay "apps" to support in-built radio functions. So you want to listen to XM? Go back out of Carplay to do so. Same with rear video entertainment, etc.

 

(2) They seem to pick and choose who gets to make a Carplay app. So Overcast got to make a podcast app, but no other maps app?

 

Anyway, maybe someone will jailbreak Carplay to create new Carplay apps. But, like I said before, it will take some time before there is enough critical mass to do it.

I find going from CarPlay to Sirus/XM very easy. Mode, Sirus. That's it. Not much different than changing from any other function to Sirus. But, try that with AppRadio and it is much more of a pain. My experience with CarPlay is that it is fairly seamless using CarPlay and the Pioneer side.

 

Don't expect a ton of CarPlay apps until some of the new cars start rolling out. We may have it in aftermarket now, but that's a small group of users. Until 2015/2016 models roll out, app developers won't spend the time on it. How many CarPlay radios do you think are out in the wild right now?

Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 21:32 UTC#15

My problems with Carplay are mostly Apple's fault.

(1) There are no CarPlay "apps" to support in-built radio functions. So you want to listen to XM? Go back out of Carplay to do so. Same with rear video entertainment, etc.

 

(2) They seem to pick and choose who gets to make a Carplay app. So Overcast got to make a podcast app, but no other maps app?

 

Anyway, maybe someone will jailbreak Carplay to create new Carplay apps. But, like I said before, it will take some time before there is enough critical mass to do it.

 

(1) Since CarPlay is an in-dash interface of a specific set your phone's apps - this would only be possible or make sense if the iPhone had its own XM tuner or AM/FM tuner. That's why there is an NEX icon on Car - to take you back to everything that isn't affiliated with CarPlay. 

 

(2) It looks like all CarPlay apps are for playing audio from various services. I don't think that Apple's application programming interface (API) includes any criteria for anything other than audio apps (for now?). 

Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 22:15 UTC#16

Yeah that whole "why doesn't CarPlay control my radio" is just stupid. CARPLAY IS USED TO CONTROL THE PHONE FROM THE RADIO, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!

Edited Dec 15, 2014 by VBLUE42
Posted Dec 15, 2014 · 23:45 UTC#17

Please send your feedback to Apple, include "CarPlay" in the subject...they do monitor feedback!

 

https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html