Hey guys

Just got off the phone with Pioneer and wanted to ask a favor from you guys. I love my avic but i DO NOT understand why $1k unit does not have some features. My saying is that its better to have it and not need than to not have it and need it. We should email pioneer and ask them to get these feature in there; text entry for radio stations or RDS. Even though some stations supposely dont use its a NICE feature that goes along with your $1k HU. Also the ability to put AM and FM presets on the same menu. Yes i have an ipod and use it but you can take so much ipod. Lets get on the horn/email machine and tell them how improve their product.

The D3 doesn't have RDS? My car came factory with RDS. Well I do not listen to FM/AM ever so not real loss to me.

Havent listened to free radio in 4 years. Satellite radio is the way to go

Havent listened to free radio in 4 years. Satellite radio is the way to go

Amen!

I definately agree that satellite is the way to go. I actually have both XM and Sirius. I also have over 7k songs on my iPod. I guess I'm addicted to music or something. LOL

Meh.

I refuse to pay for radio. Addiction to things with monthly payments is why so many people have bad credit.

I actually thought about adding RDS to my D1, but it seemed a lot more trouble than it was worth if it was even possible (I'd have to check).

I don't have bad credit.

Meh.

I refuse to pay for radio. Addiction to things with monthly payments is why so many people have bad credit.

No, irresponsibility is why so many people have bad credit. Also your not paying for the radio, your paying for the minimal commercials you hear.

Addiction to things with monthly payments is one ingredient to why so many people become irresponsible.

Satellite radio

Satellite TV

Cable TV

Broadband Internet

Cell phone bill

Cell phone data plan

Car payments

Credit card balance

Add up all those monthly payments and that comes out to a big chunk of change. I'll put up with a few commercials and stick to free radio, free HDTV, $25/yr prepaid phone w/free data, older vehicles w/high miles, and that leaves me enough money to never have a balance on my credit card (in fact I get cash back) and own a big house.

If you love your satellite radio, that's great, but FM still has a place in the heart of a cheap bastard like me.

just so you know, sat. radio doesnt have to be a monthly payment, you could just subscribe for 1 or 2 or whatever years at a time. kinda lump some .. similar to when you buy the unit itself... just pay it off and forget about it.

The assumption that a monthly payment for satellite radio is directly responsible to bad credit is absurd. Bad credit happens when a person over extends themselves beyond their means. I'm very happy for you and your old car and cheap ways. I however would rather live happy and having fun. If someone knocks down my house, I'll rebuild it.

I would like my D3 more if it had RDS. Why Pioneer did not include that feature when every bottom of the line stock radio has it is disappointing. I wonder what they gained by leaving this feature out?

The assumption that a monthly payment for satellite radio is directly responsible to bad credit is absurd. Bad credit happens when a person over extends themselves beyond their means. I'm very happy for you and your old car and cheap ways. I however would rather live happy and having fun. If someone knocks down my house, I'll rebuild it.

I don't know what you're reading, but I never said satellite radio is directly responsible for bad credit. I said it and other monthly payments that people are so addicted to is a contributing factor to bad credit. There are far worse monthly addictions like cell service or the HDTV package on satellite TV. If you're going to argue about something I write, at least bother to read it first.

Your reply was in response to satellite radio. You are the one who brought bad credit into the conversation. Don't attempt to turn it around like you didn't say that. It seems a bit ridiculous to add an argument about monthly payments to a topic about RDS text. That was and still is my point.

what does bad credit have to do with rds... oh unless of course its some spam. lol

Your reply was in response to satellite radio. You are the one who brought bad credit into the conversation. Don't attempt to turn it around like you didn't say that. It seems a bit ridiculous to add an argument about monthly payments to a topic about RDS text. That was and still is my point.

Scroll up, I said:

Addiction to things with monthly payments is why so many people have bad credit.

You're the one that's turning things around to have something to argue about. Never did I say anything about satellite radio by itself is DIRECTLY responsible for bad credit. Monthly payments is relevant when discussing satellite radio, which someone else brought up for whatever reason and also isn't relevant to RDS text either, so what's your point?

Anyway, for the original poster, I scanned the service manual and there is NO way to add RDS to the D1.

You need 2 ingredients to support RDS:

1. An RDS capable tuner module.

2. RDS support in the system controller IC.

Other models (N-series) had a EU version available which had an RDS tuner module and RDS-capable system controller IC. No such parts are available for the D1. I think the chip in the tuner module could be swapped to an RDS compatible chip, but lack of an RDS system controller makes it impossible.

well since that is settled, anyone got a link to that spam about bad credit? ahh nevermind, im sure ill see one soon enough.

lol just funnin around

LMAO you guys are funny thanks for going off topic. Anyway i had xm and they ran a loop. i hate that. Yeah XM is cheap but they play the same music over and over and i like local news and radio. The only difference i see is no commercials. RDS and text entry should of been put on there. Thats my point. Its about choices i guess. ::

believe it or not lacking of RDS function in a TOP NOTCH devices like AVIC's are is or work of an idiot who does not take care to the technologies around or a companies stupid look on the market. For me RDS is a key feature for a car radio, in europe it does have its traddition and here in NA it should have too. The traffic info goes simply from RDS, radio station names, etc. Why in the name of god they could not add this feature to this pricey units, its just something that I cannot get. I had a N2 before, broke up coz of the bad DVD unit, tried Kenwood did not like the childish garmin interface, and even the whole UI seemed to me like a play of child. Switched back to Z2 but still lacking a basic feature like is a RDS, could someone explain me why ? Is the RDS so expensive to add ?Thats same as the first gen of Ipod Interface they made, completely useless, or sat radio interfaces, just a huge device that cannot do anything that is spoused to do. I want RDS !!!

Wow... this is quite a pointless argument you guys have going here. The AVIC doesn't have RDS. No amount of pointless arguing is going to change that. There's nothing you're gonna be able to do about it, so live with it and move on.

You can always order one from Europe, but everything is more expensive there so you'll be paying out the @ss for it.

Actually, adding RDS to a Z2 might not be as difficult since it runs CE. Supposing you could add the RDS decoder chip into it (not that difficult for anyone who can solder SMT components), you could try and see if the AV.exe program for the Euro model will run on the US version.