I have D3 in my mazda3. From the mazda3 forum, I learned that the new classic ipod won't be able to play video on the D3 anymore.

This is the classic 80G/160G which replace the old 30G/80G.

Anybody here know anything or confirm this?

Gosh, I got the ipod adapter for my D3 but I haven't bought the ipod yet. I keep checking the price for 30G video ipod and now they don't make it anymore. I don't want to buy the new 80G (eventhough same price) if I cannot play video on D3.

Not true, the new larger capacity iPods should play video from the dock connector just like all previous iPods. What your hearing may be confussion with the iPhone video capabilities.

Well, I guess I stand corrected. Just read that they did eliminate video out feature. I am surprised that they DID cripple this function.

But it does fail to do something simple and fundamental: unlike the fourth- and fifth-generation iPods, it refuses to output video or photographs to an external TV or other device unless it’s connected to something that contains an Apple authentication chip. That means that our in-car video cable can’t play video from the iPod classic. It also means that our collections of iPod video display docks and wearable video displays do not work with iPod classic. Photo slideshows and video playback alike are constrained by this artificial limitation. In short, Apple has locked away the photo-out feature it introduced in the iPod photo and 4G iPod, as well as the video-out capabilities that it introduced in the 5G iPod, and is now going to make you buy new accessories to replace the ones that worked before.

Well, I guess I stand corrected. Just read that they did eliminate video out feature. I am surprised that they DID cripple this function.

they didn't ELIMINATE it, it just won't work without authentication with, um, "authenticated" apple hardware. it's so stupid, why don't they eliminate the headphone jack if it's not connected with the retarded apple earbuds too, christ.

Ok, I looked into this a bit further. The regular Composite AV cable WILL WORK. It's the Component (HiDef) AV Cable that is disabled.

Full details here: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

Ok does anyone know if the classics will support TV OUT from the dock connector or not. It sounds like it will based on the link you provided but its just not clear.

From what I can gather, the TV out will only be enabled if the dock/connector is an Apple product, or one of the very few 3rd party products developed with Apple's support.

Pioneer does work with Apple, does that count as support or not?

From what I can gather, the TV out will only be enabled if the dock/connector is an Apple product, or one of the very few 3rd party products developed with Apple's support.

Pioneer does work with Apple, does that count as support or not?

 

From what I can gather, the TV out will only be enabled if the dock/connector is an Apple product, or one of the very few 3rd party products developed with Apple's support.

no.

the D3's product line is too old for it to have the authentication chip. the theory is Pioneer needs to come out with a new iPod direct cable with the chip, and everything will be good.

that or someone hacks the ipod

What a shame. Bought the 80G today and yes the video does not work.

Does the old 30G work?

I probably return and get 30G or the new 16G nano.

You're going to have the same problem with a new nano as you have with the classic.

You're going to have the same problem with a new nano as you have with the classic.

I know. Since I cannot play video I will not need much storage capacity. As the result, I don't need that big 80G. 8G is big enough. So either 30G or nano 8G.

(Sorry! I meant 8G nano instead of 16G nano)

If if hook up a the proper dock or a/v cable to the ipod nano 4 gig it will be able to out put video or does it have to be hooked into a tv or car stereo ect. to work?

Yes, you can hook the ipod up to the AV in ports using the apple cable to play videos on the D3, but you will not have the ability to use the D3 to control the ipod that way.

So, I have a theory. Apparently the video out feature is enabled if you use the compatible 'apple universal dock.' If that dock connects to the Pioneer cable, wouldn't that allow it to be used as it should (before Apple screwed us)? From the pictures I can see, it looks like it is the same type of connector as what would normally go into the dock port.

So how would you go about connecting the apple dock to the pioneer cable?

The pioneer cable connects to the dock port on the ipod. The dock connects to the dock port on the ipod. It looks like the dock then has another dock port connection for various cables, like the included USB cable. Presumably you would just use that port. I will test the theory as soon as they are in stock at work.

My other thoery is that if there is an apple cable that plugs into the headphone connection, that would allow you to turn the video out feature on. As long as you keep it connected to the pioneer cable at the same time, it may work as it does with other Ipods.

Or Apple could admit their treachery and unlock the feature with a firmware update.

Hi, there are 2 Apple Universal Docks. Model # MA045G for the 30GB/80GB 5.5 generation and the new universal dock that comes with the remote control. The new one is about doubled the cost of the older one.

Does anyone know if the older model MA045G universal dock will work for the new 80GB/160GB Ipod Classics ?

Thanks.

It will work for audio, charging, etc, but since it doesn't have that stupid little authentication chip in it, the video output will be disabled.

what do you guys mean by new ipods? what about the 5th gen ipod video that has a black face?

5.5 gen ipods video dont work. does the new dock that costs double have the effin chip

yeah, i meant 5th gen, not 5.5.

since when don't the 5.5's do video? thought this was just with the latest generation

Yes it does. Its 6th generation that don't

5.5 gen ipods video dont work. does the new dock that costs double have the effin chip