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4200 and Android Auto

By Multitask · Jan 14, 2016in NEX Series💬 10 posts👁️ 2,742 views
Posted Jan 14, 2016 · 04:04 UTC#1

Ok, so I bought the 4100 (yea I messed up in the subject), Came from the Kenwood 990HD.

 

Hooked up my Nexus 6, and after a while and talking to Pioneer (TIm was VERY helpfull) I got it up n running.

 

I did the update, although that didn't happen very smoothly, but it eventually saw the right files and took the update.

 

So my issus' now are as follows:

 

1:  Google Maps seems very washed out.  Nothing I do on the phone or the HU seem to affect it.

 

2:  I don't see much of a difference from day to night with the Illumination settings.

 

3:  My iPod touch (3rd gen) works file, but the movie I have on it only show as a black screen with no sound, though the timer shows it's going... any clues there?

 

Any apps I should get  and how to get them to work the best would be good and fun.   8)  (I have Waze, hope to get that working on the HU)

I"ll be tackling AvicSync and AppRadio next, so any clues on what to look for would be helpful too.   8)

Edited Jan 14, 2016 by Multitask
Posted Jan 17, 2016 · 23:33 UTC#2

So no one knows/cares?  8)

 

I ended up buying the Navi unit that goes to it.... not fully happy with this setup.  I am going to see if I can trade up to the 7100 or 8100

 

It all works well, but it seems that you can't have the NAvi and Android Auto going on the 4100.  It's one or the other.

Posted Jan 18, 2016 · 00:10 UTC#3

So no one knows/cares?   8)

 

I ended up buying the Navi unit that goes to it.... not fully happy with this setup.  I am going to see if I can trade up to the 7100 or 8100

 

It all works well, but it seems that you can't have the NAvi and Android Auto going on the 4100.  It's one or the other.

 

I am pretty sure it will work that way no matter which unit you own. CarPlay or Android Auto work as its own system, and your Navi will not work while either one of those is loaded.

Like I said, I am pretty sure.

 

Phil

Posted Jan 18, 2016 · 00:56 UTC#4

Yea, it would be nice if the Main Menu would show an Icon for either so I could switch on the fly.  I'll be really disappointed if it's the same with the x100?

Posted Jan 20, 2016 · 17:36 UTC#5

Ok, so here is what I know so far...

 

With the 4100 with the Avic-U260 there are limitations on what it can and can not do.

You can not plug your Android phone in and use the U260 Navi.  It just will not do it, according to Pioneer.

The 7100 and 8100 can.

 

If I plug in my Android to just the USB2, I get the Android Auto.

If I use the Pioneer CD-AH200 (cables/adapters) (usually they are 60 or 30 bucks depending on who you buy them from, I got them for $10)   and plug in my phone (Nexus 6) it does not recognize it.  According to the Pioneer tech, it's a problem with my phone and other Nexus as well as some other brand phones.  The solution is to buy yet ANOTHER adapter that plugs in the mini usb then into the phone.  So you end up with about 20 feet of cables from behind your dash.  (Ok maybe less but it's still not acceptable)

 

On a brighter note, I have also been attempting to get an external drive (platter and SSD) to play mp3s.  I used my PC and my Mac to format and copy files to either drive.  Using FAT32.  It would always tell me the format was wrong.

SO, I formatted the 3T drive as NTFS , copied the files over, and it took about a minute but it's reading and playing the music.

The down side is that I have to use the USB2 port, making it impossible to plug in my phone for Android Auto.

 

So here is what I'd LOVE for Pioneer to look into...

 

First off:  PLEASE put this info on your web site. You'll have less complaints and returns and the users will still buy I'm sure.  I know I would have just forked out for the 7100 or 8100

 

2ND:  Don't limit what each port can do.  This deals with Car Play and Android Auto and being able to use what ever storage device for music.

For those with iPhones putting an external drive on USB2 is fine, but if they have an iPod as well, they can't use it.  For those with Android, putting the Android on USB2 does not allow for anything but an iPod on USB1, when I could have put ALL my music on USB1 with an external drive.

Allow both ports to do both things.

Don't tell me you can't do it, I"d tell you that you are not a good programmer if you can't do that.

 

And as far as the Navi, I haven't seen anything that deals with adding POI's or Routes that is very simple

with the 260, I have to take out the SD card and then use Navextras to update/add.

Because there is already an SD slot on the machine, it would be better to copy the files there, and then have a menu item to update the SD card on the 260.  Luckily I had the installer put it where I could access it, but I'm sure most people don't think to do that.

Posted Jan 22, 2016 · 04:34 UTC#6

Ok , newest update

 

The store I bought this from was SUPER gracious to take back the 4100 and 260, and upgraded me to the 8100 (a few more bucks, but I know I"ll be happier down the road.)

 

I"m sure I'll be looking for posts for things on the 8100, and I"ll most likely ask questions.  8)

 

I"m in the process of updating the firmware/BT and maps.  I know this will take a few hours.  

Posted Jan 26, 2016 · 19:21 UTC#7

While you still had the 4100, did you ever figure out a way to dim google maps so it's not so washed out?

Posted Jan 26, 2016 · 22:26 UTC#8

Nope, it has to do with how Google has it sending the display.  This is from what I've read on other sites.

 

It's washed out on the 8100 too.  What I did is turn on the Traffic and that at least added the green and red lines so it's a little easyer to see.

 

The 8100 is AWESOME, I highly recommend it.  A bit of a learning curve for the menus, and I still havn't figured out how to get the 8100 and my Nexus 6 to talk to one another about the other things other than Android Auto.  Even though I bought the special cables for that. 

Posted Jan 27, 2016 · 01:46 UTC#9

Nope, it has to do with how Google has it sending the display.  This is from what I've read on other sites.

 

It's washed out on the 8100 too.  What I did is turn on the Traffic and that at least added the green and red lines so it's a little easyer to see.

 

The 8100 is AWESOME, I highly recommend it.  A bit of a learning curve for the menus, and I still havn't figured out how to get the 8100 and my Nexus 6 to talk to one another about the other things other than Android Auto.  Even though I bought the special cables for that. 

 

I had the Nexus 6, now the Nexus 6P used with my 8100.  What other things are you talking about?

Posted Jan 27, 2016 · 03:34 UTC#10

See my other post...  8)