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how the hell do I mount in VW passat!! No kit around!!

By randomact · Jul 13, 2006in General💬 22 posts👁️ 4,894 views
Posted Jul 13, 2006 · 07:44 UTC#1
DO I have to make something complelty custom or is there someone out there that has the answer to my prayers?? I need to get my baby installed and looking flush. anyone have any suggestions. Thanks
Posted Jul 13, 2006 · 11:36 UTC#2
If it is a B5.5 it is a double din slot. All you will need is a din sleave
Posted Jul 13, 2006 · 14:53 UTC#3
All of the B5.5 and A4 cars are double DIN, so as the previous poster said, with the use of a DIN sleeve you will have no problems.

Alternatively, you can ISO mount it in the dash, but that will be a lot more work.
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 02:34 UTC#4
Try http://www.nexxia.co.uk

I could not find either an install kit nor wire harness anywhere for my Jag X-Type, but these guys had it. And they devlivered pretty quickly.

Ceger
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 04:29 UTC#5
there is no double din kit for the VW !!! Thats the problem .. Can anyone prove me wrong :) thanks
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 06:10 UTC#6
You don't need a Double DIN kit (the opening in a VW, with the exception of the Touareg, and A5 platform cars) is a standard double DIN. All you need is the double DIN sleeve from a D1 or D2 and it will slide right in.
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 17:40 UTC#7
the problem is that nothing looks factory because I cannot find and trim pieces to make it look finished.

Two Problems

1. Even if I had the sleeve there is nothign for it to latch or bolt onto!!

2. There is no trim piece since its an shaped piece of dash. So it looks liek i have to make some thing custom unless they have the trim it for my vehicle. I dont know why this is so hard to dial in :)

Two things to consider when buying a radio.
1. how to mount it in the double din slot
2. Make sure you have trim pieces so it looks factory !!

I guess I will have to take to a shop that knows what i am saying and can fix it. Thanks
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 18:45 UTC#8
I don't understand that either. I have a 2002.5 Mazda Protege ES for which there is no mounting kit. I too was advised by the folks here to use a double DIN sleeve, but having not ever pulled my OEM head unit I sorta' have the same question you do, which is: What/How do I mount or attach the DIN sleeve? Assuming the DIN sleeve is adequately mounted or attached, does the Avic-Z1 slide in and "lock" into place? I realize that most of these questions will probably be answered visually once I start the process, but I'm still curious.
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 19:35 UTC#9
yo just use the double din cage thingy from pioneer thats what i did and i have a mk4 jetta.....
Posted Jul 14, 2006 · 19:36 UTC#10
yo just use the double din cage thingy from pioneer thats what i did and i have a mk4 jetta.....
Posted Jul 15, 2006 · 11:02 UTC#11
so the "double din thingy" (technical term?) attaches somehow to the dash? :D does it attach to the dash with screws/bolts or some other way? how does the head unit attach to the "double din thingy"? does it snap into place with some sort of pressure fittings?
Posted Jul 15, 2006 · 16:17 UTC#12
A DIN sleeve (or double DIN sleeve in this case) is the industry standard for securing a headunit in a DIN sized opening. It's a metal sleeve with notches on each side that are bent down once the sleeve is inserted in the dash. That locks the sleeve in place so it can't go anywhere. The Z1 then slides into the sleeve, and is held in lace with a locking tab on each side of the unit so it can't slide back out.

The Pioneer install kit that you need is part number ADTVA133.
Posted Jul 15, 2006 · 20:45 UTC#13
Thanks!
Posted Jul 15, 2006 · 23:29 UTC#14
No problem, let us know if you're able to find it in stock anywhere, it has been back-ordered for quite a while.
Posted Jul 16, 2006 · 04:09 UTC#15
I picked up a double din sleeve on ebay so that I could mount the z1 in my golf. The sleeve was made for the d1/d2. It fit but you had to force it in pretty hard.
Posted Jul 16, 2006 · 16:28 UTC#16
You had to force what in, the sleeve or the Z1? The depth of the Z1 can make it a pain to install in A4 chassis vehicles, especially if you have all of the input/output harnesses plugged in.
Posted Jul 17, 2006 · 02:59 UTC#17
yo...^^^guy above me ive u trim the plastic stuff ontop of the climatronic it fits soooo much better!
Posted Jul 17, 2006 · 03:38 UTC#18
Yep, while cutting the factory radio cage isn't required, if you remove the material at the back it makes everything fit a lot better.
Posted Jul 17, 2006 · 05:27 UTC#19
The bracket (cage) fit in the dash opening nicely. The two brackets that you screw onto the size of the z1 cause the bracket to bulge out a bit though. The z1 slides in nicely until it hits those two screwed on brackets, then i needed to genly pry on each side with a screwdriver and push like hell to get it all the way in.

You are right about all the extra plastic in there, getting rid of it makes life easier. I left the bottom and top pieces in and I managed to drive screws through the bracket and into the plastic. That made a big difference in the stability of the unit since not many of the the teeth you bend out grabbed hold.

I still havent figured out what I am going to do about the trim ring. I bought the trim for the d1/d2 because the pioneer techs told me it would work but it doesnt. Right now I am still driving around trimless, I have been too lazy to figure out a good way to use the piece of crap trim piece they provide with the unit.

Dustin
Posted Jul 17, 2006 · 15:51 UTC#20
I'd love to know what posessed Pioneer to sell this expensive head without trim or mounting sleeve?? What saved them no more than a couple of $$ causes customers to spend big bucks by having to take it to a professional shop or possibly winding up with something far from perfect. In another thread here, a profi shop spent an entire day to install one in a VW.

My D1 was an easy install. The D1 had the same tight fit getting past those same two screws but that's just an inconvience. When the unit was stolen the scumbags also took the sleeve with them or I could just slide the Z1 in. First though I'll have to find a way to make the whole thing more secure.
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Posted Jul 17, 2006 · 17:04 UTC#21
I screwed the sleeve to the plastic on the underside and the top. Because the clearance was too tight to fit even the angle drill I had, I used a hot nail to make the pilot hole and then I used one of those s shaped screwdrivers to screw them in. I bet you could use a small rivet gun though, that would be even more secure.
I dont see how you could make it too hard to remove though since you dont even need a key to get it out, just a tiny phillips screwdriver.

Dustin
Posted Jul 20, 2006 · 21:21 UTC#22
Anonymous said:
there is no double din kit for the VW !!! Thats the problem .. Can anyone prove me wrong :) thanks



check out enfig.com

i put a D1 (double din) into my GLI (needed to fab a trim ring, as the one from pioneer sucked) but all in all very happy with the end result