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So I was p[laying around with the ipod as well as the AVIC last night and discovered how to get the best image on the avic screen using handbrake.

Encode the video with the MAX vertical resolution that your iPode will output.

Disable Widescreen on the ipod. Widescreen will just put black bars on top and bottom of the image, not transmit a widescreen ready format, since the AVIC doesnt zoom to fill, but stretch to fill.

Set the video mode to full.

You will now have as close to a 16x9 video displayed on the AVIC screen as possible.

So if you want to have video from your iPod, and you dont want to use the front aux connector because its ugly having a wire sticking out of the front of your deck, your screwed on having a second video source?

No your Ipod is designed to plug into the back RCA's. The front Jack is for an alternate source

Ahh, I never really thought about it from a DRM standpoint. That makes much more sense though why they would do that.

 

Im gonna go TOTALLY off topic now. Is there any way to access the full potential of the AVIC's screen. Like if someone wanted to put an XBOX360 under their seat and have a vga/dvi cable run to the AVIC? I know that 800x480 would be a supported resolution on the 360 if you used the VGA route.

 

Whats the deal with the EXT1 / EXT2 inputs on the menu, I googled to try and find out how to use them because I have dreamed up all kinds of schemes for external video sources. Another one I want to do is put one of those cheap DTV tuners under my seat and be able to get ATSC Digital Television on my AVIC while driving so I can watch basketball games.

Short of cracking open the unit and making your own wireing harness directly into the screen no.

As for the EXT1 and EXT2:

EXT2 is the minijack on the front, Its actually an AV input for another video or external device.

EXT1 is the RCA's on the back currently occupied by the iPod. If you disable the iPod in setup you will notice that EXT1 now is un greyed.

Im using this:

 

Another kinda OT comment. I think its REALLY bizarre that Pioneer would require the audio/video data to go through composite and analog audio cables while the control of the ipod go through USB instead of all of it going through USB...

Thats not a pioneer thing. I work for a large electronics manufacturer. We make several units that interface with the iPod product line and it is actually a limitation on the Apple side of things. The transfer of media digitally, I believe as part of their Digital Rights restrictions. All of our equipment controls over the USB protocol and transfers video and audio over standard line level.

A bit O.T. do you use an apple ipod cable to attach to the AVIC or the pioneer Cable, and what ver iPhone do you have?

All right, I suppose I just got schooled a bit. I was looking at the 5G iPod specs post Firmware 1.2, since that is what I am running.

Though that doesn't make sense that apple would do something like that.

The way that resolution reads out is 720x480.etc where 720 is lines across and 480 is lines down.

WxH ratio. Yes you would be occuping useless space if you only intended to watch these videos on the ipod alone, but since tou intend to view them on the AVIC this added file size will give you a better image on the in dash screen which is almost 3x higher res than the iPod.

I dont care about being right, I just think that the body of information out there on how to make this stuff work correctly is crap, and itd be nice if it was neatly packaged for people to read like the rest of the sticky's.

 

1) Use Handbrake in H.264 Mode to Encode.

2) Do not encode at 640x480 (Your AVIC screen is not 4:3 its widescreen)

3) Encode at whatever the maximum output resolution is for your device.

a) If iTouch / iPhone then 480x320 or 480x272

4) In any case, set your iPod to widescreen mode in iPod settings.

5) Set AVIC to "Full Mode" when displaying video.

Much better, we now have some direction here. Now for the answers:

1) Yes, H.264 is the best codec to do this

2) You do want to encode at a horizontal scan of 640, Handbrake will adjust the vert lines accordingly and will maintain your source aspect ratio.

The AVIC is neither 4:3 nor is it a widescreen. It is a computer resolution of 800x480, which makes things tricky.

3) Encode at the native res, or as close to, of the intended display device. In this case the intended display device is the AVIC. Higherst allowable res, ie 640x?? where ?? doesnt exceed 480 is going to get you the best picture on the AVIC

4&5) Since the AVIC is not a true widescreen (16x9) which the iPod would encode for, you can try whatever you like here.

P.S. The max video resolution that the iPod is capable of decoding is 640x480, so whenever you are using handbrake use the universal preset and adjust the width to 640. This will give you the best possible image on your AVIC.

Here's some help:

480x272 is the native resolution of the iPod screen and would be ideal for viewing on the iPod, but not for viewing on a larger display. To view on a larger display.... a DV NTSC Display 720x480 would be ideal.

Now that the Avic has an 800x480 screen you will be able to display a DV NTSC signal on at at full resolution without any upscaling and if Pioneer did it right no distortion. Unfortunately right now any signal you put into the avic it will stretch to fill full screen so you will get a bit of horizontal distortion. The right way for pioneer to have done it would to have been to put small black bars on the left and right side of the video to maintain the aspect ratio of the video signal.

Well if you are going to be an ass about it perhaps you should check your facts too.

 

NTSC - resolution 648 x 486

D-1 NTSC - resolution 720x486

D-1 NTSC Square Pix - resolution 720x540

Ok Allow me to explain, I have no Idea where you are getting these numbers. NTSC is 720x480, also known commonly as 480i or 480p. i stands for interlaced and is therefore split into two 240 fields horizontally, whereas p stands for progressive and is one full and uninterlaced field. A far better and superior image for digital displays.

Go pick up the manual that came with your cheap sanyo LCD and read about the display resolutions that it will support. Or you can go here:

http://www.sonyhdvinfo.com/article.php? ... Definition

But if you are too lazy to actually figure it out on your own I've already gone ahead and picked out the important stuff.

Remember what we are talking about here is DIGITAL VIDEO, or DV.

DV NTSC then is represented by a grid of 720x480 pixels at 29.97 frames per second for NTSC and 720x576 at 25 fps for PAL. These are interlaces, so actually there are near 60 half frames per second for NTSC and 50 for PAL. We commonly denote DV NTSC as 480i or 480/60i to indicate the 480 pixels vertically (480 scan lines which actually carry visual information of NTSC's 525 total lines) and interlaced at 60 fields or half-frames per second. These digital specifications are used for MiniDV, Digital8, and DVD recording camcorders, as well as for DVD-video players of today.

All the above discussion concerns the 4:3 aspect ratio of "normal TV" (legacy of the last 40+ years). The aspect ratio tells us how wide versus how high. A common old TV screen is 4 parts wide to 3 parts high, or 1.33 to 1, but commonly just written 4:3. Widescreen refers to a screen that is wider than normal - usually 16:9 or 2.35:1 although there have been many various aspect ratios used.

youre overdriving the amp. check your impedence tolerances of the amp and make sure that your speakers are not lower than that.

Ok so I am all in.

What do I look for, has anyone done this?

What kind of file should I get, any known working file names? I have an f700 btw.

WRONG!!!!

NTSC is 720x480

That is 720 Pixels Wide by 480 Tall

Where as HD is in several formats

720p, 1080i and 1080p

To get the best image out of your screen 720x480 is the best resolution to digitize to.

Your Nintendo, or whatever childish game system that you may be using puts out a TRUE NTSC 720x480 signal, NOT this antiquated 480x272 signal that you talk of, which is almost equivalent to CGA graphic quality (which was used in the 80's, over 20 years ago if you can't do the math).

And for the record while you may encode the video at 480x272 the iPod will still up convert it to 720x480 because the output on the iPod is set for NTSC video output. You can change this in the settings to PAL(720x576), but then we are getting in over our heads with different frame rates as well. So when the iPod upScales your 480x272 to 720x480 it does not improve video quality of your compressed rip, but just enlarges the imperfections.

Now your AVIC screen is 800x480, so it is already the right size to display a great NTSC signal.

Do some research next time.

And what might this illegitimate map update include, and where can i get it? Will it work directly with the iGo software, or do I have to run the TomTom Hack?

exactly

Gentlemen

 

No Idea is ALL bad ! Here is my suggestion:

 

There are lost of established mods that have been tested and proved. YES? Short of posting a NEW Data.Zip every time someone comes up with a great idea, why not post the great idea instead... If someone comes up with a better way for the same mod then do the software thing and number the mods... remember? 1.0.... 2.0

 

The guys that do all the great work on this forum would have a record of what was done, and if something does not work....... Well then... the code is right there.... in plain english.... well............ script !

 

Here's what I mean :

 

1) The mod ....... Add red light camera ?

2) The applicable code ......... The actual code (for cut & paste)

3) The File & line number it should be entered in

4) The location of the file... Can be included in #3

5) Any further instructions.. What else do I do to make it work ??

 

This could be the main post for the Hacks / Mods

Agreed!

Samantha tells me the same direction way too ofter, i.e. Take next left. She will repeat it 3 times on a 500 ft street. I just want to punch her in her mammary gland!!! Anyone know how to limit how much this woman talks??? I asked my marriage counselor, and he said drinking could help tune out female voices, but I dont think I should be doing this while driving!

Thought it would be cool to have a thread dedicated to posts exclusively of DATA.ZIP files.

Please if you post your modded data files here a screen shot would be nice as well as release notes containing changes as well as referencing any past assistance that you may have received from previous DATA.ZIPS

can someone please post the actual TTS files they are using on their SD cards to restore this issue?

 

You're assuming throwing a silent error/exception is less costly than reading a 0kb file. And that it causes no other side effects (memory leaks etc.)

 

Sorry.. my nerd is showing..

-dp

This is true, but after a week and several long road trips I think its safe to say that there is no harm no foul.

how long did that take? How long were you withouta a unit? did they cover shipping costs both ways?

Do a search, that was a limited, but acknowledged problem some people had.

seen the threads, but hasnt been a resolution

You should paint over the F series wording and paint D3 on it and hopefully all the bugs will die!!!