travelboysteve

Nice Kenwood, If I was still in the market, I would seriously consider it. My Z1 is not perfect, but i still love it. The time it takes to load a CD is no problem for me either, it will record them faster than they are playing so you don't have to wait for the whole CD to play. Some of my "non-store" library burns the names anyway. My steering wheel adaptor and blutooth work fine,..my only "real" complaint is the micrphone,...it just sucks out loud, no matter where I place it. Yeah the maps suck a bit, BUT, mine is in learning mode and recognizes how I drive rather quickly, plus destination history is mostly how I use the maps. I have other Garmin products and in the major cities where lots of construction is going on, you will find any maps are a bit useless. My feeling is this for ANY mapping,..if I have to rely so heavily on a machine to show me where to go, I shouldn't be driving, besides, you'll crash into something anyway.

Thanks to Ducatiboy and others here, we all seem to have "quality" problems, wouldn't you all agree? Now go enjoy whatever it is that you have installed in your car,.....step up to the plate and make a decision as to what you need,....heck,...make a pro and con list if you can't decide on your own,.....no 1 machine will do all for everyone,....isn't there a saying about pleasing most of the people most of the time?,.....

OH, thats what was missing

Ya,..my brain,..........Doh!!!

Sorry Guys, False Alarm,..Ducatiboy,....Thanks for that,......after exploring the connector,....you are correct,...The female tabs are crimped to the wires, and after I disassembled one of the wires, (guide), I carefully took it out and have the female piece attached. Sorry about all this,......I thought for a minute Pioneer was trying to alleviate yet another one of your brilliant bypass mods,.......I over thought the process in your instructions assuming the connection tab was part of the plastic connector. SO,....for all the other dunderheads out there, to clarify a bit more, when you remove the wires you intend to ground, ensure the metal tab is still attached to the wire by following Ducatboy's fabulous instructions WHICH WORK PERFECTLY SO DON'T PM HIM PLEASE,...I'm now bowing in shame,..........

As long as the pin exists in the socket on the Z1 chassis, the unit can be bypassed. You need to take an unused wire (with the metal pin band thingie) and insert it into the plug that has all the other wires on it in the specified location.

The metal band thingy is a 1 piece unit and can not be taken apart, unless someone has a tremendous amount of time on their hands,.....

Look fellas, it's not as simple as it sounds,......I will post my before and after pics, and I'm sure some of you will go,.."Oh, THAT's what was missing,......

My unit was 12/06 and my installer was able to bypass it.

Ya, I figured it could be, this post was just to see if Pioneer was up to something by removing the easy connection in the connector harness.

I know I can bypass this connector pin, in fact I made a simple mod for the connector and it is a solid connection. On Ducati's site where he mentions how to bypass, the terminology used is to remove the "wire", and ground the "wire". That is fine if the connector had a female slot, but mine does not. I'm sure a lot of you are rolling your eyes, saying, "Another newbie startin' some Sh*t,..not the case all,....I'm very familiar with wiring solutions, it's what I do for a living and I wanted to share something I thought might be an issue and try to be of service, That's all, Steve

Ducati, did you get my PM?

The connector for the ground bypass next to the antenna wire does NOT have a metal tang that would connect to the radio to effectively ground that pin.

Yes, That is correct, there is no female slot when it goes into the radio, it is only plastic. if you are looking at the top of the connector the connection band stops at the last 4 pins.

It is the one that IS posted above, only thing is the metal band with the tabs connection stops at the last 4 pins,

 

 

I don't mean to be a smart ass, but I'm having a lot of trouble visualizing what you are seeing from these descriptions.

 

It should look like that connector, only with that wire on the bottom right not there. There should be 4 holes, not the 3 pictured. The only "metal" in that connector is the terminals crimped on the end of each wire and then inserted into each hole. Things like "the connection band" have me confused. I'm not trying to make fun of you because I sometimes have the descriptive powers of a 4 year old (lots of "thingies" and "whatch-a-macallits"). A picture would help.

 

 

I am going to try and just solder the tip in a "y" fashion or something to act as a receiver for the radio pin,.....any other suggestions, please post, this might be new for the Z2's as well

 

I would highly suggest taking a picture of what you are seeing and post it, if you can't post it you can email me a copy of it at one of my emails here: http://www.sminntech.com/contact.html and I will post a pic so people can see it. But if they changed something we would like to see what is up. I know if there is something different people are going to start asking me for information that's for sure.

No offense taken D- OK, start here, you are holding the connector in your hand,.....the female metal band that is attached to the plastic connector so that the wiring ACTUALLY connects to the pins on the radio,..are ya with me so far? The connector is essentially 2 pieces, 1 plastic and 1 formed metal band to create the female connectors, (tabs as you call them) for the pin assembly on the back of the radio, this metal piece does NOT allow a connection to the radio in the last 4 holes as in your pic. Sorry guys, my truck is apart in the driveway and I live near a highschool,....I promise I will post a pic soon if need be.This is where my trouble lies, I can not just simply push the wire in and make a "solid" connection, unless of course ALL the connectors came this way and everyone is simply relying on a press fit installation. I have a 4wd and I'm sure the bumping around will loosen this connection unless there is a mod to make it permanent

post up a picture of the connector that you are talking about

It is the one that IS posted above, only thing is the metal band with the tabs connection stops at the last 4 pins,......I am going to try and just solder the tip in a "y" fashion or something to act as a receiver for the radio pin,.....any other suggestions, please post, this might be new for the Z2's as well

Yes, That is correct, there is no female slot when it goes into the radio, it is only plastic. I can't post a pic right this second, but if you are looking at the top of the connector the connection band stops at the last 4 pins. Could this be Pioneers' way of trying to defeat the defeat? Watch me now,....

Hey Guys, Did a lot of reading and tweeking on the bypass, mods, etc. Just got home with my Z1, (ya, can you believe I found one?) Build date is 12/06. The connector for the ground bypass next to the antenna wire does NOT have a metal tang that would connect to the radio to effectively ground that pin. Anyone else runn across this? I will try to fab something up and re-post my install conclusions. DucatiBoy,...help meeeeee,.....j/k

I may need some advice in a little while, for now, I'll run the pre amp wires, and get it prepped and check back in a bit. Thanks guys.

Try this site,.......http://www.imgburn.com/

If Z1s are in short supply, can we assume Z2s are going to be around before March? Pioneer doesn't want to go a couple of months with nothing in stores do they?

 

(I'm actually more into a D3... but I figure the situation is the same)

I have been waiting for my Z1 since November from my dealer. I "might" get a Z1 next week from the 6 they alloted to their company of 15 stores of which there are 62 BO's. My guy Fred said as of last Friday when he checked Pioneer's website, that they will be releasing them in April now,.....I swear if there was another brand as good as this with the features I need, I'd buy it and not put up with Pioneers BS. This kind of stuff is exactly why I went with Kenwood for another purchase,....cheese and rice,....

A plan to bypass the z1 been erased from hack forum . Was this mistake ?? Please put back !! .why pay so much for 10 dol in parts ???,

ask doncata??? boy ! high profit? I had the ploan in and bam - it gone !!

 

pls post else place

 

English. It's your friend.

ROFLMAO

From what I understand, the difference between the Z2 and Z1 will be software only (with the exception of having "Z2" written on the front). The software upgrade, which includes better navigation, will be available for Z1 owners and will turn a Z1, effectively, into a Z2.

Thanks Action,...any idea on where to pick one up? I was able to get them from my wholesaler and I'm currently "next" on the list of 62 people believe it or not. I've been waiting since November and reading my googlemaps is getting a little frustrating. LOL

What's up guys and gals,.....Just signed on and saying hi.

I am currently waiting for my Z1, of which may now be the Z2, according to my vendor, I have read a lot of great posts here and when the time comes, I will be asking a lot of first timer questions.

I had the N2 in my last vehicle with the back up camera over ride, ( we had a pretty racy video playing on the way to my bachelor party 2 years ago), but with my new vehicle, Nisan Titan, I want to go with an in dash.

Anyone have any inside info on Pioneer release dates for the Z2? Any Z1's available? Is there really that much difference, since I read we can upgrade the firmware / software anyway, (I think). Ar ethe bypass mods history now?

Any comments, suggestion appreciated, and I will post pics of the entire install, (have my scosche, just waiting)

Thanks so much to all the great posters here. Steve