HeavenSoldier

[quote name="countdown"] [quote name="HeavenSoldier"]I saw one at 12volt but was wondering does anyone one here have the s1 and would like to review it? Like I heard someone else say the s1 was dead-on, I know they changed maps to navteq, so how do you like the new maps from navteq? Is the s1 accurate? Just give a review. Thanks and God Bless.[/quote]

Does anyone have the link to 12 Volt's review?[/quote]

Well it's not an official review, its just a forum topic.
[url=http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?TID=80960&PN=1]http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/for ... 80960&PN=1[/url]

But anyway, if I don't get the s1 can yall recommend me a good mobile device to get something under $600, something very reliable, extremely reliable map wise, got a family member who wants to travel a lot for business so I need something reliable 99-100%. Thanks and God Bless.

THe review at 12 volt was good. DO you own the s1 and are saying that the s1 is bad? Of so, what was wrong with it? Thanks and God Bless.

[quote name="niteone"] [quote name="HeavenSoldier"]
Hmm, yeah I don't want to lose anything on the avalon, did they say that was possible? I want to keep the little screen and put the navigation in another place like where the cd is player, but I want to keep the little screen if possible.[/quote]

I'm sure they could do that...keeping the little screen and install the AVIC-Z1 somewhere else.

but, looking at where that cd player is....it's curved....and if you put it there, it'll be tough cause of that curve.....

you might be better off getting a different unit (single bin) and putting that where the cassette is....plus you'll have a cover. But, then again, that factory stereo will still be there....hmmmm...I dunno now that I'm thinking about it....that factory stereo is curved like I said, and that's going to be tough.[/quote]

Hmm well I don't know what to do since the main reason I'm buying the avalon is for the good car and put the z1 in it, because the car is very spacey.The other option I had was getting the lincoln zephyr which is small compared to the avalon. But I'm going to call pioneer and see what they say.

I saw one at 12volt but was wondering does anyone one here have the s1 and would like to review it? Like I heard someone else say the s1 was dead-on, I know they changed maps to navteq, so how do you like the new maps from navteq? Is the s1 accurate? Just give a review. Thanks and God Bless.

[quote name="niteone"]I went to the pro shop on Saturday to have the AVIC-Z1 installed in my 2003 Explorer....see my story here:

[url=http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1227]http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1227[/url]

Also asked about how they would install it in my 2006 Avalon that already has the factory navigation system, and they still said they could do it....

but, like I said, you'll be losing some stuff if you replace that screen that comes with the Avalon....that screen location is the same screen location that comes in all Avalon's, whether you have the factory nav or not. It's in the same place, but the factory nav screen I'm thinking is a better screen.

If I was you, I would find another place to install the AVIC-Z1 other than replace that screen that comes with the Avalon. So, you don't lose climate functions etc.

I've decided to keep my factory nav in the 2006 Avalon and just deal with the stupid things that are wrong with it....and, I'll be adding Bluetooth to it down the road.[/quote]

Hmm, yeah I don't want to lose anything on the avalon, did they say that was possible? I want to keep the little screen and put the navigation in another place like where the cd is player, but I want to keep the little screen if possible.

[quote name="niteone"]this is the answer I got from Pioneer:

use this link to see if it fits your car...

[url=http://www.crutchfield.com/S-8ArU2JBHadL/cgi-bin/autoinfo/AutoInfo.asp?vb=Y&s=0&cc=01&vehicleid=0&lp=%2FS-8ArU2JBHadL%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fsuperprodgroup%2Easp%3Fg%3D266150%26cc%3D01%26wm%3Dtn%26cm%5Fre%5Fo%3DfB5EzM%2A5yBpFwEAN%2Al5TjnxxvDi]http://www.crutchfield.com/S-8ArU2JBHad ... l5TjnxxvDi[/url][/quote]

Yeah, but most of the times you can custom fit and make a dash and put it in the car, so those aren't always accurate. Did you hear anything else from the pro shop?

Hey ski, according to someone on this forum it can be installed (the avic z1 that is) on the toyota avalon 06. My post is #11 on this site [url=http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@@.f0df71a/0]http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@@.f0df71a/0[/url]

A author said they have to use a different interface something like that, it's on the forum, I hope it can be done, because I was about to get the avalon 06 this fall. Thanks again, God Bless.

[quote name="skicrave"]I guess I should issue the disclaimer to my previous post that this definitely needs to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis.

On [i]most[/i] cars going with something like the Z1, which is an all-in-one solution is the best way to go. But on today's newer cars, were the stereo is integrated into not only the dash, but also the HVAC controls, steering wheel, Dash, etc., in most cases you end up with less functionality by going with an aftermarket system. This is certainly true on today's newest Japanese autos, and if you have a chance to spend some time in one that is equiped with nav you will be blown away by the functionality. A co-worker has a new Lexus IS with nav, and the integration, UI and functionality are far superior to the Z1.

That said, the decision will have to be made by each individual, but I have no doubt if I had a new Avalon (which I really like, BTW), I would seek out the OEM solution to maintain the functionality and integration that car deserves.

I would start by checking the forums, as chances are there is someone out there that either already has, or is planning to do the same modification.

These appear to have pretty good traffic:

[url=http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/f48]http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/f48[/url]
[url=http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/avalon/]http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/avalon/[/url]

Good luck![/quote]

Okay thanks I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get the z1 in the avalon 06 I don't think I'll buy it. Because toyota's navigation system doesn't have the lane feature etc I want. But hopefully I can see if anyone successfully installed a aftermarket navigation system in it.

[quote name="skicrave"]Purchasing an Install Card won't allow anyone to install the Z1 in your car. You can buy a plane ticket online, but if the carrier doesn't fly where you want to go that doesn't do you any good.

In a car like your Avalon (and an increasing number of other cars), because of the integration of the stereo into other systems in the vehicle, retro-fitting the OEM option is really your best bet if you just want to take advantage of the features the Z1 offers. In almost every case these features are now available in the OEM solution, and the finished package looks and works much better.[/quote]

Hmm, still not understanding much, but just tell the installer to retro-fitting the OEM? I hope they should know that already. Also what's an estimate cost to do all of this, will it cost me more to do the OEM vs. just installing a z1 in a regular car? I don't want to pay a lot to install a navigation system I haven't even tried yet.

[quote name="skicrave"]Install the OEM nav piece, it will cost you about the same, but the integration will be 10 times better in a car like your Avalon.[/quote]

I'm sorry I don't know what you mean by that I'm new to all of this. Really I was thinking of getting this [url=http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3x2NAkJVkTH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=597421000]http://www.crutchfield.com/S-3x2NAkJVkT ... =597421000[/url]
which is the Prepaid professional in-dash receiver installation crutchfield offers, so, should they be able to install the z1 even with all that was said on this post? Also is the Prepaid professional in-dash receiver installation a wise option? Because I don't know who to go to to install this device.

[quote name="dhodory"]Am going to buy this for the wife . . . . anyone know and ETA of when this will be available?[/quote]

Check crutchfield its out now.

[quote name="murzik"]As far as I know you can't remove factory stereo from avalone. If you do so you will lose all info on factory LCD.[/quote]

Really!? So there's no way to install it now then?

[quote name="keithss"]no kit yet for double din for that vehicloe. the only kit my new book has in it is metra 99-8215 for a single din radio 05-06 avalon. I'm sure it will be coming out for a double din though.
Keith[/quote]

Okay but a shop should be able to make a custom kit and put it in there right? Thanks and God Bless

Anyone install a avic z1 in a toyota avalon 06? The dash looks strange to put a aftermarket system in, I'm getting the z1 or z2 if its out probably next year or this december but wanted to know if it fits in the avalon 06.

[img]http://media.automotive.com/evox/stilllib/toyota/avalon/2006/4sa/57.jpg[/img]

Thats a picture of the interior, I hope it can fit in there, if I decide to get the avic z1.

[quote name="Anonymous"]this is lsutiger694... everything went fine but make sure you get your install shop to hook up the Green/black (green wire/black stripe) of the vehicle harness to the blue ant power wire from the pioneer harness. If they dont do it you will be without AM and have weak FM. Which dash kit did you go with... I purchased a 1 piece kit from korea that was made for navigation in these vehicles.[/quote]

Hey you got any pictures?

[quote name="outatime"]Thanks for the reply, it did it again today for 2 hrs, getting pissed off now, any advice on what I should do?[/quote]

Try calling pioneer, don't know why no one calls them first :)

[quote name="skicrave"]I had the 7015 (predecessor to the 717 and 6019) with the 4100 nav piece in a previous car. It was a very nice setup, but I honestly don't think it can touch the Z1 in terms of flexibility. The nicest thing about the Kenwood nav is that it is the first aftermaket integrated nav system to announce support for ClearMedia's TMC based traffic info (a free traffic announcement system that Europe has had for a decade).

The Z1 has a much better design though, both in terms of UI and the look of the actual unit, it's more square compared to the Kenwood systems.

If all you want is a solid multimedia headunit with navigation, I'm sure the Kenwood package would do the job. If you're an early adopter and want the lastest of what is available in mobile electronics, then the Z1 is the piece for you. With iPod, NavTraffic and Bluetooth support, it's got everything that is readily available right now.[/quote]

If you wanted one strickly for navigation purposes and the accuracy of it, which one would you get? Compared to any navigation system out there.

[quote name="Navyguy"]I must say I have been a victim of this also. My camera is acting up also. It goes in and out. What is up with this camera?[/quote]

You guys tried e-mailing pioneer or calling them about this? I found them to have very good customer service and fast when responding to e-mails.

. Don't know but I bet it looks nice in that vehicle.

[quote name="ImolaVirus"] [quote name="Anonymous"]

All in all, The Z1 is one unit and does alot of features, the Alpine does al the features of the Z1 plus, Zagat guide[/quote] So what? Why is this important? [quote name="Anonymous"] 3D landmark images[/quote] Z1 has this feature in major metro areas [quote="Anonymous"] remote control[/quote] Also available for the Z1 for $20 [quote="Anonymous"]with gps and media controls. [/quote] I have 5 of those on the end of each of my hands, as the Z1 is a touch screen unit. I think the Z1 is an excellent unit, compact, easy to use, & packed full of features. Plus it's got 11 million POIs vs. Alpine's chinsy 9 million... :) It's not without it's flaws, but it's just about the best there is, for now.[/quote]

Yeah both users had problems with the alpine here [url=http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Z6uQ9EwnA5U/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=182450&tab=review&i=500NVEN872#Tab]http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Z6uQ9EwnA5 ... VEN872#Tab[/url]

But I'm still waiting maybe towards the end of the year or January to buy a avic product so things can be worked out and fixed.

Hmmm, what did this alpine unit come out? I've also been looking at other units to compare with the z1, and so far I've found this [url=http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2006/01/kenwood_hdv770_gps_fantastic_features_come_with_steep_price.html]http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/20 ... price.html[/url]

But the Z1 is a competitive unit.

[quote name="guest"]For those that found errors of the map or POI, would you send the description of the issue to TeleAtlas? Pioneer does not have a specific support page for navigation issue but TeleAtlas does. Keep in mind TeleAtlas probalby would not help routing issue but they might correct map or POI errors. The only time a correction is made to the map or POI is when people report it.

[url=http://www.teleatlas.com/Pub/Home]http://www.teleatlas.com/Pub/Home[/url][/quote]

Did yall e-mail teleatlas and what did they say?

[quote name="spartan611"]Can anybody answer my questions please? THANKS GUYS, I REALLY APPRECIATE IT![/quote]

Do a search I believe this has been talked about already. Thanks and God Bless.

[quote name="ImolaVirus"]I've had mine for about 1.5 months, and I've had no problems at all with mine. The rerouting is very fast, when I chose to take a route other than the one selected. It will tell me to u-turn about 20 times, but it eventually figures out that I'm not going to, and concedes. I'm really happy with the Nav portion of the unit, and especially the split-screen 3D/2D. It really helps in a busy intersection.[/quote]

Oh yeah I see your in jacksonville, good to see it works good in FLorida. I'm in Tallahassee, have you tried it in any other places in FL?

[quote name="Cirbirus"]The routing works great for me. I've only had the unit for a few days though.

To see how good it is I've been setting destinations every where I go and then doing stuff like taking different routes to see how well it deals with re-routing and it's been doing a great job. The only time it's been off was when I drove right next to a major road it told me to take (but didn't). Once the major road veard off it figured out what road I was really on and rerouted me using the side street so it actually did a great job again.[/quote]

Oh thats great. Maybe it's just certain units? But I'd like to see them change to navteq.