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VSS Wire location on W203 (C-Class) Mercedes? VSS Needed?


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I know that the factory stereo get's it's speed data from the CAN-BUS, but I've heard that there is another source that can be used as a secondary location for some of the COMAND systems that doesn't use the CAN-BUS connection, I've just not gotten confirmation of where it is.

Has anyone installed any AVIC-Z1/D1/D2 in a 2001-2006 C-Class mercedes?

If so, do you have the VSS wiure connected? If not, how off is the tracking?

Is it worth it to put the Z1 in without the VSS connection?

Thanks All!!
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A great resource for that type of information can be found at [url=http://www.the12volt.com]www.the12volt.com[/url]

In fact, look here specifically (2001): [url=http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?TID=8883]http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/for ... p?TID=8883[/url]
Looks like it is half way down this list...
I would connect the VSS for dead reckoning (I think the Z1 has that). Good luck!


ITEM | WIRE COLOR |POL| WIRE LOCATION |
| 12V|red |+ |ignition harness |
| STARTER|purple |+ |ignition harness |
| IGNITION|pink/red |+ |ignition harness |
| SECOND IGNITION|pink/yellow |+ |ignition harness |
| THIRD IGNITION|black/green |+ |ignition harness |
| POWER LOCK|black |- |driver door module or *1 |
| POWER UNLOCK|blue |- |driver door module or *1 |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|gry/red & gry/blk *5| |illumin. control module *5 |
| HEADLIGHTS|yellow & yel/blk |5wi|illumin. control module *5 |
| DOOR TRIGGER|*2 |- |pin switches or *1 |
| DOME SUPERVISION|comes on with unlock| | |
| TRUNK/HATCH PIN|brown/yellow |- |trunk light or *1 |
| HOOD PIN|brown/red |- |hood switch or *1 |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|yellow |- |release switch or *1 |
| FCTRY ALARM ARM|arms with lock | | |
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|disarms with unlock | | |
| TACHOMETER|*4 | |ignition coils |
| SPEED SENSE|green/black | |radio |
| BRAKE WIRE|black or blk/wht |+ |brake pedal switch |
| HORN TRIGGER| | | |
| WIPERS|yel/wht & yel/gry |+ |wiper motor |
| LF WINDOW UP/DN|*3 | | |
| RF WINDOW UP/DN| | | |
| LR WINDOW UP/DN| | | |
| RR WINDOW UP/DN| | | |
| SUN RF OPN/CLOSE|*3 | | |
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Thanks for the help, but that didn't match my car.

The Z1 tracks very well without the VSS wire, so I'm not having any issues yet with tracking. Radio reception on the other hand is horrible!

Anyone with Mercedes (2001-2004) C Class know how to solve a poor radio reception issue after the stock stereo is replaced?

Thanks.
-Jeff
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