I saw one at 12volt but was wondering does anyone one here have the s1 and would like to review it? Like I heard someone else say the s1 was dead-on, I know they changed maps to navteq, so how do you like the new maps from navteq? Is the s1 accurate? Just give a review. Thanks and God Bless.

Very disappointing review. Takes the S1 off my list. Garmin Nuvi 360, here I come. Oh well. :(

THe review at 12 volt was good. DO you own the s1 and are saying that the s1 is bad? Of so, what was wrong with it? Thanks and God Bless.

No, didn't read the review at the12volt.com -- the subject line of my post says the review was by www.gizmodo.com . There's a video that goes with it, very disappointing.

HeavenSoldier said:

I saw one at 12volt but was wondering does anyone one here have the s1 and would like to review it? Like I heard someone else say the s1 was dead-on, I know they changed maps to navteq, so how do you like the new maps from navteq? Is the s1 accurate? Just give a review. Thanks and God Bless.

Does anyone have the link to 12 Volt's review?

countdown said:

HeavenSoldier said:

I saw one at 12volt but was wondering does anyone one here have the s1 and would like to review it? Like I heard someone else say the s1 was dead-on, I know they changed maps to navteq, so how do you like the new maps from navteq? Is the s1 accurate? Just give a review. Thanks and God Bless.

Does anyone have the link to 12 Volt's review?

Well it's not an official review, its just a forum topic.
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/for ... 80960&PN=1

But anyway, if I don't get the s1 can yall recommend me a good mobile device to get something under $600, something very reliable, extremely reliable map wise, got a family member who wants to travel a lot for business so I need something reliable 99-100%. Thanks and God Bless.

dhodory said:

Very disappointing review. Takes the S1 off my list. Garmin Nuvi 360, here I come. Oh well. :(

At almost twice the MSRP?? For that you may as well get an indash unit.

I have no idea what the MSRP is for the Nuvi 360, but I do know that I can buy one from either Buy.com or Amazon.com for about $699 versus an Avic-S1 from a similarly reputable online retailer (i.e. Abt, Crutchfield, or J&R) for $599. So $100 difference doesn't really deter me, no. Most good in-dash navigation solutions (i.e. the Pioneer Avic-Z1) go for $1,500 minimum, and then the portable, transfer it between cars, take it with you to Europe on vacation aspect is lost.

Now, if I wanted to go "bargain basement" and select a less than known quantity retailer, I could pick up the Avic-S1 for $440. But that isn't really an apples-to-apples comparison, is it? I mean, once the Nuvi 360 has been out a while and all of the "shady", "fly by night", "our shipping charges are $69.99", or "our return policy is that we don't take returns" online retailers are selling it, then maybe we can compare pricing on a level playing field.

Having said that, even at $440 vs. $700, while I'm not the kind of person who sneezes at a $260 price difference (BELIEVE ME, I'M A TIGHT-WAD :lol: ), I'd much rather pay the "extra" $260 for something that actually works, than "save" $260 and buy something that is going to annoy me every time I use it. I suppose that for the person for whom the extra $260 is a deal-breaker, that logic doesn't apply, and I understand that -- it's not like I can afford the best in class of everything I buy.

There's an old saying, and I forget exactly how it goes, but it's something like this: "The glow of a good deal had fades much more quickly than the sting of a bad purchase." As always, YMMV, just my two cents.

Hey can can yall recommend me a good mobile navigation device to get something under $600, something very reliable, extremely reliable map wise, got a family member who wants to travel a lot for business so I need something reliable 99-100%. Thanks and God Bless.

based on researching reviews, the garmin nuvi 360 seems to be top notch right now. Approximately $699 -- but it's just coming out right now, that price will drop over time (or additional retailers willing to drop the price will begin carrying it). I know your budget is $600 -- but an extra $99 for a unit that seems to have it all (not just in terms of "specs" but in terms of usability) doesn't seem like too much of a stretch, YMMV.

dhodory, I see your points. I also see that you live in central Ohio, Columbus I am assuming. I would be more than happy to meet with you and let you demo the AVIC-S1 first hand and see what you think after that.

I went to Best Buy yesterday at Polaris and played with the Nuvi 350 a little and while it was nice, it was was not as easy to navigate through the menus as the AVIC-S1. And yes it was quicker once you select your option, but by a split second only. And what's better(or safer), quicker or easier to use? The guy also made a comment about no street names on the AVIC-S1. Not sure where that come from, but it is far from accurate. And the whole glare issue had me laughing as well. I guess almost any surface will have a "glare" in direct light. I have not had an issue with glare, or street names or anything he found fault with. I have had mine and have been using it for a couple of weeks now and love it. I think dollar for dollar it is unbeatable.

As I said, the invitaion is open dhodory, I am in the Grove City area. Just drop me a message and we can arrange to meet and you can judge the AVIC-S1 for yourself.

That_one_Guy said:

dhodory, I see your points. I also see that you live in central Ohio, Columbus I am assuming. I would be more than happy to meet with you and let you demo the AVIC-S1 first hand and see what you think after that.

I went to Best Buy yesterday at Polaris and played with the Nuvi 350 a little and while it was nice, it was was not as easy to navigate through the menus as the AVIC-S1. And yes it was quicker once you select your option, but by a split second only. And what's better(or safer), quicker or easier to use? The guy also made a comment about no street names on the AVIC-S1. Not sure where that come from, but it is far from accurate. And the whole glare issue had me laughing as well. I guess almost any surface will have a "glare" in direct light. I have not had an issue with glare, or street names or anything he found fault with. I have had mine and have been using it for a couple of weeks now and love it. I think dollar for dollar it is unbeatable.

As I said, the invitaion is open dhodory, I am in the Grove City area. Just drop me a message and we can arrange to meet and you can judge the AVIC-S1 for yourself.

Hmmm, then I may still get the avic s1, I really need it for a family member who is traveling far business wise, and will constantly use it, but the person at 12volt said it's reliable too. So your having no problem with it? I know it uses navteq. Please let me know, also did you post a review anywhere online? Also does it mount good in the car without everyone noticing your a tourist or seeing the navigation system? Thanks and God Bless

dhodory said:

based on researching reviews, the garmin nuvi 360 seems to be top notch right now. Approximately $699 -- but it's just coming out right now, that price will drop over time (or additional retailers willing to drop the price will begin carrying it). I know your budget is $600 -- but an extra $99 for a unit that seems to have it all (not just in terms of "specs" but in terms of usability) doesn't seem like too much of a stretch, YMMV.

Also where can I get the nuvi for 700?

buy.com

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?s ... c=111&sp=1

you must add to your cart to see price.

amazon.com also has it at the same price.

Two other reviews with 1 bad http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/Pioneer_AVIC_S1_GPS_receiver/4505-3430_16-31933234.html

even the "good" review says "nice first attempt . . . "

I don't get these guys that are leaving bad reviews. Not that I think they don't know what they are talking about...but what are they talking about??? When the "bad" review says no route summary what does he mean? And the bad driving directions makes no sense either. I have to laugh at these people because as they leave their reviews, in my eyes and I am sure others as well they don't make sense.

I have this thing and I think it works great. Is it the be all end all of portable navigation, no? But are any of the portable navi units, no?

The no route summary has me scratching my head, and I wish the reviewer would have left better info. To me route summary is how far and how long(ETA). The AVIC-S1 gives you that info. Now again, that is what it means to me. To them, I can't say.

Here is my thought on the bad driving directions comment. This person bought it and tested it driving around his town. When he entered a destination it gave him a route that he thought was not right or too long or whatever. But this person knows his town, and they know where to and how to go. To test any portable, or even in dash navigation the true test is not the area you already know because you already know the short cuts, quickest routes and all that. I have used this thing now in 6 States and I think it works as well, or better than it should.

I am lead to wonder if the person that left the 4 out of 10 even looked at the instructions. Not that you really need to as it is pretty straight forward, but before you rate it poorly maybe one should actually look over the instructions and see if some of the problems are user error.

As for the battery comment on the other one. Not much to say there. Mine has lasted almost 4+ hours, and I can't say that is good or bad for what it is.

Anyway, I stand behind this being a great unit.

to make a long story short i just recived my free s1 its for the wife tho and so far she loves it the blue tooth is so simple and easy to use ...i got it for free from 6ave.com when i bought my avicd2 ..it was a good way to convince her and of course she LOVES free...

That_one_Guy said:

I don't get these guys that are leaving bad reviews. Not that I think they don't know what they are talking about...but what are they talking about??? When the "bad" review says no route summary what does he mean? And the bad driving directions makes no sense either. I have to laugh at these people because as they leave their reviews, in my eyes and I am sure others as well they don't make sense.

I have this thing and I think it works great. Is it the be all end all of portable navigation, no? But are any of the portable navi units, no?

The no route summary has me scratching my head, and I wish the reviewer would have left better info. To me route summary is how far and how long(ETA). The AVIC-S1 gives you that info. Now again, that is what it means to me. To them, I can't say.

Here is my thought on the bad driving directions comment. This person bought it and tested it driving around his town. When he entered a destination it gave him a route that he thought was not right or too long or whatever. But this person knows his town, and they know where to and how to go. To test any portable, or even in dash navigation the true test is not the area you already know because you already know the short cuts, quickest routes and all that. I have used this thing now in 6 States and I think it works as well, or better than it should.

I am lead to wonder if the person that left the 4 out of 10 even looked at the instructions. Not that you really need to as it is pretty straight forward, but before you rate it poorly maybe one should actually look over the instructions and see if some of the problems are user error.

As for the battery comment on the other one. Not much to say there. Mine has lasted almost 4+ hours, and I can't say that is good or bad for what it is.

Anyway, I stand behind this being a great unit.

Thanks that one, I think we're going to get it anyway, God willing. Thanks and God Bless.

Hey that one, where is the most reliable and cheapest place I can buy the unit? Also, if I don't buy it from pioneer or crutchfield and get it from a cheap online store, will I still retain and have a warranty from pioneer?

Some more reviews of the avic s1

http://www.time.com/time/business/artic ... 64,00.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/ZDM/story?id=2302749

http://www.epinions.com/Pioneer_AVIC_S1 ... y_~reviews

The reviews are not that bad.

http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/raskin/1375

http://www.epinions.com/Pioneer_AVIC_S1 ... y_~reviews

lots of clients buy this unit and the all love it..

it's still new so not mutch bad reviews yet.

only that it always take a long route ...lol

i sell the

sony nvu

jvc exad avinu

garmin c330

and
tomtom 700

of all the units i rater shows the sony or the pioneer.the tomtom sucks big time and the garmin is very good but the only thing it does not liste anly afhter you have writen the intire street....

to let you know, we just picked up a AVIC-S1 brand new for 350 shipped, so the deals are out there, just keep looking. Had all the best features for the price :D

personnaly it's garbage here were i live..it frezzes,it makes you take some wired detours all the time even if you change the settings....

my clients don't like it at all...

the most popular is the garmin.