Guys can you post Z3 screen shots, I would like to see hiw they look compared to the z2

no one has posted because so far, i have seen 0 differences. Other than the splash screen showing 2/2008 on it.... A street that was completed at least 2 years ago in San Diego still does not show up... For what ever reason from the Z1 to the Z2 i lost 1 of the two Starbucks near my work in Sorrento Valley...still gone in the Z3 version...

Guys can you post Z3 screen shots, I would like to see hiw they look compared to the z2

I agree with smarsh, absolutely no visible difference in my area, Ontario, either. I feel sorry for those that pay money for the "upgrade".

Not sure how this became a double post but I see no option for deleting it.

you lie GTA maps are much better now

I've noticed that my NavTraffic roads are accurate now, but that's about it. Before it was like they had keyed in the coordinates wrong and there were jagged lines going across roads that didn't exist.

But the piss-poor rerouting algorithm remains in effect

you lie GTA maps are much better now

GTA = Greater Toronto Area?

glad to hear they are doing better with the Canadian Maps...

My wifes parents live in a small town (cairo Georgia). We only saw the major state roads intersecting the town on the Z1/Z2. It was useless whenever we visited it made showing the AVIC qualities a little tough.

After I updated to Z3 I panned over to Cairo just for grins and WHOA !! THE ENTIRE TOWN IS THERE..... AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED+ ROADS.

I would guess with confidence that there must be many dozens of such updates...

My maps still look basically the same, but coming from the Z1 directly to the Z3, I can truly say that Raleigh, NC is definitely on the map now!

you lie GTA maps are much better now

I don't lie you little idiot, show me one area that is improved.

I'll be happy to drop in my other HDD to show you that whatever you just discovered was already on the Z2 image.

And by the way, I drove 30 miles north of Toronto yesterday only to get a message that "Guidance was not available for this area". What good is guidance when 30 miles away from the core of a 3 million city, and while still being in a well populated area and on 80 year old roads there is no guidance.

Large lakes with a 25 mi shore line are still not on the map either.

Turning on my Magellan the guidance works everywhere and even much smaller lakes are on the map.

Street View I saw 3D building on gas stations and fast foods, I'm new with the Z2 but and I just upgraded to Z3 H, so I don't know if those buildings were there before

try Markham

and plz dont call me an idiot

you lie GTA maps are much better now

I don't lie you little idiot, show me one area that is improved.

I'll be happy to drop in my other HDD to show you that whatever you just discovered was already on the Z2 image.

And by the way, I drove 30 miles north of Toronto yesterday only to get a message that "Guidance was not available for this area". What good is guidance when 30 miles away from the core of a 3 million city, and while still being in a well populated area and on 80 year old roads there is no guidance.

Large lakes with a 25 mi shore line are still not on the map either.

Turning on my Magellan the guidance works everywhere and even much smaller lakes are on the map.

try Markham

and plz dont call me an idiot

 

 

you lie GTA maps are much better now

I don't lie you little idiot, show me one area that is improved.

Now this is hilarious, the guy calls someone a liar and then complains that he calls him an idiot, while still not showing a screen shot of the area where things may have improved.

I'm near the GTA and can confirm that all the problems that were there in previous versions .... are still there. Routing stinks and detail is missing in many areas. Going just outside the greater Toronto area one finds himself in areas that have no lakes or rivers showing and a POI that at best lists 20% of what Garmin lists. People from the States come here to vacation in these areas and need a Garmin or a paper map to find the lakes that they want to go to.

Sure there may be one or the other new developments that finally made it into the data base but on the grand scale of things there are far too many items still unaddressed for those few improvements to make even the slightest difference. It's pathetic when a $150 Garmin becomes the benchmark to which an AVIC just can't compare.

I am confused as to why Pioneer would not give us the MOST data available. This actually is a little irritating. Its not like they have to send a bunch of guys out to survey the data - though a small amount of this is required of the map data companies. Every State, city and town has survey maps of ALL roads as part of state and municipal obligations - and its public information. The map data we all use comes from the State and municipal maps for the most part and it is converted by tha map data companies i.e. Teleatlas.

I am not saying that they dont have a few surveys that may be slow in developing, but 99% is there.

Garmin and the others dont give us all that is available, but at $1500 I expect more from pioneer.

Only differences in the New Jersey area is that newer roads are added. I don't know about where you guys live, but there are times where the z2/z3 want to take me on roads that do not even exist!! Wouldn't you think these roads would be taken off since the z1?? And the "point to point address" isn't that great, sometimes it is, but this one time the place was a good 2 miles down the road, and the z3 told me it was in a whole different plaza. I really don't have too much to complain about.. i love my z2/z3.

My wife drives a BMW 650ci, and her map update from BMW that we just bought at the local dealer has our subdivisionon the map. But my Z2 updated with the Z3 image still doesnot have my subdivision. The sub. is about 2 1/2 years old. We live in the Greater Las Vegas Area.

p.s. My mother-in-law drives an Audi A6 and her map update has it as well.

I think maybe the data updates differ by region. Im in Raleigh, NC and my subdivision was not on my Z1, but it is on the Z3 update. The subdivision was built in 2005-2006. My friend lives in a brand new subdiv. about 4 miles north and his streets are on the Z3 as well. His area just started being developed about 8 or 9 months ago.

I think we should write a open letter to pioneer to update maps or to refund us for useless hardware they selling for those incredible prices, its just unfair to the customer, someone should take it to the court and they should refund their products to the unhappy customers

I think we should write a open letter to pioneer to update maps or to refund us for useless hardware they selling for those incredible prices, its just unfair to the customer, someone should take it to the court and they should refund their products to the unhappy customers

Sounds like you just volunteered yourself

I think we should write a open letter to pioneer to update maps or to refund us for useless hardware they selling for those incredible prices, its just unfair to the customer, someone should take it to the court and they should refund their products to the unhappy customers

You do know that Pioneer doesn't update the maps, right? They get them from Tele Atlas.

If you want them to update a region, simply go to their Map Insight / Update page and tell them:

http://mapinsight.teleatlas.com/mapfeedback/index.php

I'm sick of everybody bashing Pioneer when they don't even know how it works / that there's already a system in place for this sort of thing. Maybe if you looked into it 2 years ago it's be on the map by now...

/rant

I'm sick of everybody bashing Pioneer when they don't even know how it works / that there's already a system in place for this sort of thing. Maybe if you looked into it 2 years ago it's be on the map by now...

Not trying to be a smart A$$, but I did not know 2 years ago that thye did not have my are on the map, for two reasons. One, it was not here two years ago. Two, I did not have the Z2 two years ago.

I wonder what the lag time is between that website and when the maps actually come out. The updates from my area that I wanted to put in there are already reflected in their maps. Bummer. Maybe '09.

Why on the Z3 picture on the pioneer website you can see the street very wide and the 3D building in front and you have the option of ZOOM IN/OUT. But on my Z2 with the Z3 upgrade I don't have the ZOOM IN/OUT on that view wich I believe is STREET VIEW. I only see the ZOOM ICONS on 3D view, but no buildings

Why on the Z3 picture on the pioneer website you can see the street very wide and the 3D building in front and you have the option of ZOOM IN/OUT. But on my Z2 with the Z3 upgrade I don't have the ZOOM IN/OUT on that view wich I believe is STREET VIEW. I only see the ZOOM ICONS on 3D view, but no buildings

...marketing...?

I think we need the Z3 firware, the HD image only changed the maps, but all my settings are the same before. Hopefully they make an update for the z3 firmware