I've never had a problem with the mapping, however, the iPod menu button issue is one that should really be addressed through a patch/update. This is where the "menu" button on the iPod play screen becomes non-functional after you stop and restart the car. This has been an issue from the get go and I don't think Apple had anything to do with it.

While it's true that Apple has nothing to do with their items not working with pioneer's product, it is up to Pioneer to support their products that they hype as being the cutting edge in technology. If you say it works with the iPod and will control it, then it's up to you to support your claims and offer the correct patches or updates to make your product work correctly and not just replace it with a new unit unless you're going to replace the old unit you sold with a new one. The only other option is to list the known problem so the buyer can decide if he wants to deal with them. Pioneer doesn't want to support it but they still sell it with it's problems and still doesn't mention the problems. That's why there is no brand loyalty anymore.

Overall, its still a good deal for the average user, especially when you can get the unit, ipod cable, bluetooth module, install kit and connectors for under $800

Guys:

Just take a look at this month's Crutchfield catalog to see how much ALL OTHER companies have gone WAY BEYOND the D3 with features, usability, and options. And all for not much more than we all paid for our D3's originally.

While we all wrestled with he AVIC-D3's SERIOUSLY screwed-up problems, Pioneer ditched it and moved on. It's unsupported, and Pioneer has left everyone in the desert with it.

For example, the D3s Bluetooth NEVER worked right. It doesn't work with half the phones the competitions' models work with. And the AVIC-D3 NEVER plays the voice dialing prompts from ANY of our phones, making it totally unusable AND UNSAFE for hands-free dialing since you can't hear your phone's directions telling you what your options are -- or who it thinks you asked it to dial.

Moreover, it's been 14 months since the original map disk was made Where's the update?? My neighboor's $200 TomTom gets free map updates every couple of months from one of the same map services Pioneer supposedly uses -- while Pioneer has totally s-rewed everybody and left their customer base hanging.

For not much more than the AVIC-D3 costed us originally, you can get the new Alpine/Blackbird models, the Kenwoods, and the Eclipses, all of which are AMAZINGLY better than any AVIC model, with REALLY SLICK menyus and graphics, voice-recognition. All of the new models are already better than Pioneer's F-series AVIC supposedly coming out in June.

I've already replaced the AVIC with the latest Kenwood 51XX, and it's like night and day...what a joy to be free of the buggy AVIC!

You obviously have never used an Eclipse or the blackbird. You are kidding yourself if you think they come close to what the F-series is expected to be

Dont hold your breath for the change! The D4 will be improved and the D3 will go the way of he D2...

There is no D4. Will be the F series now

Dont hold your breath for the change! The D4 will be improved and the D3 will go the way of he D2...