Our distributor had a big sale tonight and the Pioneer guy brought a AVICF900BT to show. Looks flippin awesome. Bluetooth worked great even on the iphone, album covers were cool. The voice recognition worked perfect for bluetooth, but only got like half of the artist and album names we tried. They did say its a prototype so it should be fixed by release. Snapped some pics for y'all, sorry the deck didn't come out good, but the flash ruined the screen shots. The plastic was glossy like the D3

so how much easier i the ipod controls? dos it work like the actual click wheel on the ipod??

CamelTowing, you're my hero. Nice pics! Much better than the same crap on all the Pioneer sites.

Vastmax, why would you want the click wheel to work? Seems that would be difficult to use while driving.

Working scroll wheel still would be cool though. Thanks so much for the pics! I REALLY hope that they fix the voice command for the iPod. It's one of my main reasons for selling my Kenwood. They better have this fixed by release, especially if the voice technology is done by Voicebox, who claims to be an industry leader in this stuff. Hopefully this was just an early prototype unit just like the one shown at Cebit 2008 and not just one off an early shipment, which WOULD reflect the final software. Fingers crossed on that one.

Any comments on operating the unit? Like how to switch to the bigger album art, is the scroll wheel functional, how fast/responsive the iPod interface for scrolling is, or any other cool tricks/findings? Thanks again, still can't wait for this unit!

Find POI along route, now thats a feature we've definitely needed. Going to POI's (gas stations) 10 miles back isnt really a timesaver on long trips.

Its not a scroll wheel, which doesn't matter to me since there would be a big smudge on my screen all the time. There is alphabet search now though, guess I forgot to take a picture of that but it was there. I have a D3 and the scrolling thru the ipod menu was way faster on the F-series, not that I am sure I will use it with the voice activate. He said they fixed the ipod video problem for the classics and new nanos too.

P.S. 1 If you look at the ipod screen pic with the small album art, you just touch the album cover on the screen and it stretches it out to makes it bigger, which is seen in a different pic

P.S. 2 The navi menu is different that the previous one they have used forever, so it will take some getting used to, but still looks pretty easy to use. No telephone # search though

Same here. Another thing I forgot to mention is that you can also now dial those POI that you find in the search if your bluetooth is sync'd up like the Z series does. Little button appears at the bottom of the screen to dial

Find POI along route, now thats a feature we've definitely needed. Going to POI's (gas stations) 10 miles back isnt really a timesaver on long trips.

Thanks for the update!

Did you guys see the F900BT being sold on eBay? Guy has 10 of them. Or he says he does.

I have a few questions:

1. Can it still do Sirius and XM together

2. Is it XM Navtraffic? and weather compatible?

3. I know it is smaller but does the screen feel smaller?

P.S. 1 If you look at the ipod screen pic with the small album art, you just touch the album cover on the screen and it stretches it out to makes it bigger, which is seen in a different pic

That's what I was thinking once I took a good look through the pics. Thanks for confirming. And I am SO HAPPY to see that we can dial the POI through BT. That is what I wanted with the D3/Kenwood that I never got due to poor BT/Main Unit interoperability.

Hello all,

awesome forum, any idea when I can get the F90 and do I need a VSS wire hookup for the F series?

thanks !

Jan

1. Yes

2. No, its MSN direct instead. No

3. Not to me, but to each his own

I have a few questions:

 

1. Can it still do Sirius and XM together

2. Is it XM Navtraffic? and weather compatible?

3. I know it is smaller but does the screen feel smaller?

Rumors on here say it will be available sometime between May 20th to sometime in June

Hello all,

awesome forum, any idea when I can get the F90 and do I need a VSS wire hookup for the F series?

 

thanks !

 

Jan

So the only differences between the AVIC-F900BT and the AVIC-F90BT is that the F90 comes with the Ipod cable and has 3D landmarks?

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the big deal about 3D landmarks anyway?

90 also has a 2 year warranty and 4-volt preouts

So the only differences between the AVIC-F900BT and the AVIC-F90BT is that the F90 comes with the Ipod cable and has 3D landmarks?

 

 

Forgive my ignorance, but what is the big deal about 3D landmarks anyway?

thanks in advance

How much smaller is the screen compared to the Z3?

-B

Same here. Another thing I forgot to mention is that you can also now dial those POI that you find in the search if your bluetooth is sync'd up like the Z series does. Little button appears at the bottom of the screen to dial

I just discovered that feature like 3 months ago on my Z2 and it is so helpful!! Good to know it's still there.

1.15 inches measured diagonally

How much smaller is the screen compared to the Z3?

 

-B

What are the advantages to waiting for the best of the F - series vs. buying a Z3 ??

about $1000 less, alll the traffic updates, gas prices, etc...builtin bluetooth phone capabilities an i dont know what else.

but 1k less for something better is the hook for me.

so its 1.15 in less, so it has no dual zone......oh well.

buy a 1/2 din and hook it up to your rear monitor and done.

Z-series:

bigger, almost 7 inch screen

no nav disks

10 gigs of music storage

dual zone

stubborn voice command for everything

sluggish ipod control without video support

pioneer bluetooth

2-volt preouts

F-series:

smaller, 5.8" screen but higher resolution than Z

no nav disks

built-in parrot bluetooth (works better with most phones than pioneer)

voice recognition for ipod and bluetooth

nice ipod interface that transfers video

divx and mp3 dvd supported (only on 900 and 90 models)

2-volt preouts on 700 and 900, 4-volt on 90

Seems there are still plenty of people that will want the Z for the big screen, dual-zone, and music storage. I however am not one of them...would rather have good bluetooth and my ipod for music storage at a lower cost

Also, you can buy a 16Gig SD card for about $150 (or 8gig for $60 aprox) and have 6 gigs more of anything you want to store, music, videos etc than the Z and it will still be a lot cheaper.

Ya, good point. You can also store video on the SD card, whereas you can't put video on the Z HD. Will be even better when the 32 gig SD cards come down in price more

Also, you can buy a 16Gig SD card for about $150 (or 8gig for $60 aprox) and have 6 gigs more of anything you want to store, music, videos etc than the Z and it will still be a lot cheaper.

very informative pics.