True, this just gets me super excited because I am just about ready to order mine and I really really hope this is actually happening.

 

You really hope what is happening? If your talking about the patch, I already posted the info about that (which came DIRECTLY from Pioneer).

 

Again, there is no RECALL (and there wont be unless the Hardware is the problem). Just an update which they are currently working on. They dont want to send out more units with these problems and ruin the name of the F series.

 

Al-Eds is supposed to have a ETA of the next shipments sometime on Friday...Lets hope that actually happens and that it's correct

I will X2 that $hit!!!!

I just want my unit already if it only needs a flash update. Its killing me with my old single-din sony CD player. I misss my D3 but i got an amazing offer on it so im glad i sold it. I really hope we(those who ordered from Al-Eds) will have our updated units in our hands next week!

True, this just gets me super excited because I am just about ready to order mine and I really really hope this is actually happening.

 

You really hope what is happening? If your talking about the patch, I already posted the info about that (which came DIRECTLY from Pioneer).

 

Again, there is no RECALL (and there wont be unless the Hardware is the problem). Just an update which they are currently working on. They dont want to send out more units with these problems and ruin the name of the F series.

 

Al-Eds is supposed to have a ETA of the next shipments sometime on Friday...Lets hope that actually happens and that it's correct

I know the patch is coming, I'm just hoping it happens in the rough time frame mentioned above, since I was hoping to order one next week.

I hope it is downloadable from Pioneer as that would make it much easier.

I just called Pioneer as well and once again they do confirm that they are aware of the problems plaguing the F series and assured me there is no recall. They also stated there will be a fix available as a downloadable CD. I called because as I type this the AVIC is on my bench and I have been playing with it for a week. I have a BMW and needed some parts in order to do the install so I figured why not give it a good workout before it even goes in the car. They could not give an ETA for the patch download but assured me it is coming.

I just called Pioneer as well and once again they do confirm that they are aware of the problems plaguing the F series and assured me there is no recall. They also stated there will be a fix available as a downloadable CD. I called because as I type this the AVIC is on my bench and I have been playing with it for a week. I have a BMW and needed some parts in order to do the install so I figured why not give it a good workout before it even goes in the car. They could not give an ETA for the patch download but assured me it is coming.

I don't understand why your rep was so knowledgeable and mine barely admitted there was even a problem.

I do wonder if they even know whats going on and if they just feed everyone a different line of bs just to make us happy and post some sort of reassurance.

Guess there is no briefing or training that they all go through, perhaps hte select few keep up on current events, others say I never even had a call about this unit yet its so new.

[i don't understand why your rep was so knowledgeable and mine barely admitted there was even a problem.

 

I do wonder if they even know whats going on and if they just feed everyone a different line of bs just to make us happy and post some sort of reassurance.

 

Guess there is no briefing or training that they all go through, perhaps hte select few keep up on current events, others say I never even had a call about this unit yet its so new.

Because the guy you talked to was completely full of shit. It also wouldn't be the first time they have claimed that they have never heard of the problem. They said the same thing for the longest time about the problems with Z series last summer before they finally issued a fix. Occasionally you can get someone on the phone that appears to be receptive of your problem. I have personally had about 50\50 acceptable and completely unacceptable responses from them.

Any word from Pioneer or Al-Eds?

nothing yet. they said they would email us today telling us whats up

I spoke with them....and i HIGHLY doubt you will get an email from them.

"We are expecting to hear from Pioneer sometime today or early next week" Which translated from business terms to customer language means "you probly won't get an answer till next Friday at best".

LOL....JUST SEND ME MY UNIT...i've mastered clicking the "Download" link and "Save" button a long time ago...I think we are all fully capable to install a patch (if they make a decent one).

The ONLY positive thing i see about Pioneer stopping the shipping of the F series is that it will make them motivated to get the patch out much faster!

I spoke with them....and i HIGHLY doubt you will get an email from them.

 

"We are expecting to hear from Pioneer sometime today or early next week" Which translated from business terms to customer language means "you probly won't get an answer till next Friday at best".

 

LOL....JUST SEND ME MY UNIT...i've mastered clicking the "Dowload" link and "Save" button a long time ago...I think we are all fully capable to install a patch (if they make a decent one).

I know! I just want my unit! buggy or not. I can fix it with a patch later.

X3

Man im glad i sent mine back.....

Let's put it this way, the more I use my F900BT the more annoying it becomes.

It reminds me of a fine ass girlfriend, beautiful to look at you only see the nice parts about her. But then you find out some major issues exist, things like Blue tooht doesn't work, and there are quirks with just about every nice feature there is.

The blue tooht only works with the engine turned off, yes I have it installed properly, this is the exact same issue i've heard lots of other people have.

Take away blue tooth, now the big functionality with making calls using the contact list is moot, answer the phone using it is as well. However, you can use it to Voice control your ipod, very cool I got chills the first time I used that when it worked, now the downfall, it takes what seems like forever with a message telling you the entire time "your ipod maybe not be controlled.

Anyway point is, I thought the very same thing, wow this thing is so awesome, and it is. But honestly, if I knew what I know now a few days ago I would of held off.

Trust me you do not want to deal with these issues, you always want what you can't have, sort of like havinga super model for a gf, but once you have it you figure out she has an eating disorder, doesn't like sex and is dumb as a bag of bricks.

So yeah, that is my comparison for the day, wait for the fix, if there is one. If there is not one, DO NOT BUY!

^- hahaha nice comparison with a beautiful girlfriend. oh and its not tooht, its tooth.

Its 8:30pm EST and no email update from Al-Eds...anyone else hear anymore on when we can expect shipment or additional delays?

Its 8:30pm EST and no email update from Al-Eds...anyone else hear anymore on when we can expect shipment or additional delays?

Dont know either. I sent Al-Eds a email just now so im waiting on a reply.

i am wondering if the european models have the same issues... same hardware but different software...

i am wondering if the european models have the same issues... same hardware but different software...

Yes, they still have issues! See my post in the issues sticky for the ones I've seen so far (I've only tried mine on the bench so can't comment on call quality while the engine is running).

I am wondering that too.

I have one F900BT on order, the dealer was expecting to get it it on the 18th, but Pioneer said it was delayed to the 30th.

Maybe they're also ironing its bugs here too.

I'm in Portugal, but the dealer is German.

LITERALLY LOL HERE!

WHAT???? The "new" Pioneer AVIC units have problems? Oh my gosh...I'm totally shocked! Recalls already rumored?!?! OMG! Perish the thought that Pioneer has released another buggy, prototype product!

And..GASP..."Defender of the Pioneer Faith" HiFiSi is actually expressing concern about the problems...and even states he would be "salty" if Pioneer has problems (heaven forbid) with an AVIC release? OMG! Has heck frozen over?!?!

Give it up guys...Pioneer is going to abandon this business line altogether...they are incompetent at the navigation game, and are losing all market share!

They simply cannot produce a usable AVIC unit, and continue to treat their customers like garbage....

By the way, long since I listed my D3 on eBay, Pioneer replied to my four-month-old help ticket about upgrade disks an Bluetooth problems.

Their answer to the upgrade disk problem? "There's no set schedule for upgrade disks....we'll get to it when we get to it..."

Their answer to the mistake they made programming the BTB200 (which doesn't play voice-dial prompts at an audible level)? "It's a Europe vs. US thing..." followed by "Oh..well...it would take a firmware fix.." Yeah..right...so FIX it! Or refund our money!

LOL! Thanks, Pioneer!

Astrobill, why are you still here? You sold your D3, it's obvious you don't want anything to do with pioneer navigation units ... what your point? What is the purpose of your posting here? You're in a pioneer navigation forum and you're knocking pioneer navigation units ... you're not going to convert everyone here, and even if you did, to what end? Do you have stock in Alpine or Kenwood? Take your comments somewhere else, they aren't adding to the body of knowledge here.

LITERALLY LOL HERE!

 

WHAT???? The "new" Pioneer AVIC units have problems? Oh my gosh...I'm totally shocked! Recalls already rumored?!?! OMG! Perish the thought that Pioneer has released another buggy, prototype product!

Im just curious.. have you ever dealt with any of the other companies on things like this? I had an Eclipse unit in my car and they are far worse than Pioneer SEEMS to be. At least Pioneer does issue fixes.. Eclipse doesnt do crap for their customers.

Astrobill, why are you still here? You sold your D3, it's obvious you don't want anything to do with pioneer navigation units ... what your point? What is the purpose of your posting here? You're in a pioneer navigation forum and you're knocking pioneer navigation units ... you're not going to convert everyone here, and even if you did, to what end? Do you have stock in Alpine or Kenwood? Take your comments somewhere else, they aren't adding to the body of knowledge here.

He is a troll, and thats what trolls do.

Can we ban trolls?