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JVC Arsenal KW-NX7000 vs. AVIC-f90BT

By G-Man78 · Jun 27, 2008in Pre-Release Archive💬 107 posts👁️ 50,703 views
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Posted Jul 24, 2008 · 14:42 UTC#26
I read the Crutchfield review and noticed that there is no XM satellite module for the unit.

 

Satellite Radio: This unit supports both XM and Sirius Satellite Radio when used with the optional Satellite Radio tuner and adapter (sold separately. The KW-NX7000 supports the Sirius Connect Universal Vehicle tuner and JVC KS-SRA100 Sirius Satellite Radio interface (700SIRJVC1, sold separately). Currently there is no XM adapter available for this unit. You can also connect a Satellite Radio Plug-and-Play tuner to the unit's front-panel Auxiliary input.

 

You can buy the external and use the AUX INPUT, but its nice to have everything controlled by the head unit.

 

It will control a universal Terk XM tuner when using a Terk XMDJVC100 JVC interface. I guess JVC didn't want to license XM for some reason, so they interface with Terk. The manual for the KW-NX7000 even mentions the Terk XMDJVC100. It appears as though the JVC can fully control the Terk tuner using the XMDJVC100.

 

No JVC XM tuner exists, they all use the Terk XMDJVC100.

Posted Jul 24, 2008 · 14:45 UTC#27

just throwin it out there, but the firmware update for the F90BT fixed alot of the bugs if you were still interested in goin that route.

Posted Jul 24, 2008 · 18:52 UTC#28

Getting it installed next week with the Sirius, Ipod and steering wheel controls.

 

I played with the similar model (just lacked navigation) and liked the interface so to me it seems JVC has an idea of what they're doing.

 

I talked to the sales guy at the shop about this unit and he said they've been excited about getting these in for a while. Apparently the Ipod interface is top notch and quick. The same goes for the navigation.

 

He also told me that you might wanna be careful with buying this radio at some places because JVC initially had a bunch of problems with these and had to do some major upgrades before their "re-release". That's why there haven't been a lot of reviews on this because they're so limited on the market. And the ones that are out there are most likely ones that haven't been upgraded. He also could have been telling me this to make a sale but I got it for a good price anyway from a place I trust that's close to the office.

Posted Jul 31, 2008 · 20:18 UTC#29

I found another site of JVC's that shows a lot more detail on the NX7000. Don't know why JVC doesn't do the same for their US website but here's a good European JVC site for more info:

 

www.jvc.eu/kw-nx7000/

Posted Aug 01, 2008 · 17:56 UTC#30
I am another one that is now looking at this JVC unit (as well as the Kenwood 7120 option).

 

I had the D3 which was nice until it was ripped outta my Toyota 4Runner a couple nights ago. :evil:

 

I was planning on just upgrading to the Pioneer F series but the reviews on it have REALLY sucked (mainly because they seemd to release it too early). And I felt most of the reviewers frustrations because Pioneer is simply the worst for getting customers updated software to rectify all of their product issues. Enough to the point of me simply not wanting to deal with their products anymore.

 

So I was ready to slap the insurance money down on the Kenwood option (most likely the DNX7120) but my buddy who sold me the original D3 mentioned this JVC unit as an alternative. I wouldn't have really considered it except that the removeable face is REALLY appealing to me (for obvious reasons).

 

I saw the GPS review link but was hoping for some more hands on reviews as well. Especially now that I know more about what I'm looking for. So if anyone does track down any other stuff then that'd be great if you could post!

 

Thanks all

 

 

Demolition -

 

Let me know once you get this unit installed and running. I have been browsing this forum for months trying to decide what unit to put into my 08 Tacoma and have switched between the F series, 8120, and now this JVC about a dozen times already. What made you decide to go with the JVC? A big deterrent for me is the lack of user reviews, and basically a lack of information on the unit. I really like the Kenwood 8120 except for the user interface.

 

My priorities for the unit are:

1. Ipod Interface (im a big music junkie and want my ipod to be fully integrated into the unit with album artwork and no glitches).

 

2. Bluetooth - it is now the law in CA to have a hands free device and although the earbuds on my iphone work fine, it would be much nicer to have this integrated as well. My big concern is the ability for the phone to pair with the unit and have all contacts transferred and REMAIN connected....oh and not to mention phone quality. Hear so many reports of poor phone quality....this would be simply unacceptable.

 

3. Navigation - this is the lowest priority for me as i tend not to use it very much but is nice to have. The ipod and bluetooth are things i use on a daily basis - very frequently.

 

Im still really enticed by the F-series, but am not completely sure the upgrade fixed all the problems....I would love it if it did....but seems to still have problems with bluetooth and iphone.

 

Anyway, any insight as to why you went with this unit, and your hands on review (photos?!?) would be greatly appreciated. I like you am a big fan of the removable facepiece as my last car was stolen out of my apartment complex so anything to deter thieves is a big plus. Let me know and thanks for any help. Ive finally decided to register and stop watching and start talking!

 

gaucho

Posted Aug 01, 2008 · 20:50 UTC#32

im surprised the jvc nav is getting so much hype, to my understanding JVC was along the same lines as Sony, Pyle, Jensen and Dual

Posted Aug 01, 2008 · 20:51 UTC#33

 

What made you decide to go with the JVC? A big deterrent for me is the lack of user reviews, and basically a lack of information on the unit.

gaucho

 

JVC KW-NX7000:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-26G7lJsvno ... ailed_info

 

Kenwood DNX8120:

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/ ... ailed_info

 

Yea, ive read these reviews but they just give specs and capabilities of the units. Id like to read something that rates the unit, and gives some opinions on how well the unit preforms, ie bluetooth quality vs just saying it has bluetooth capability.

Posted Aug 01, 2008 · 22:11 UTC#34

Just a note on using XM with JVC...

 

I have the NX5000 in my wifes car (no double DIN space in her BMW and the motorized screen single models cover the ac vents).

 

The system itself is quite nice but the Terk XM unit flat out sucks. I've had it replaced 6 - no exaggeration - times already and it just is crap. Even with the so called 'new versions' of the unit it still randomly resets itself back to channel 0. Changing stations too quickly will cause the XM box to freeze requiring the deck to be power cycled.

 

A quick google of the Terk unit will probably reveal quite a number of similar horror stories.

Posted Aug 01, 2008 · 23:27 UTC#36

Perfect, that is the type of stuff I want to read. Would love to see some screenshots as well, hopefully once someone gets it installed they can throw a few pics up here for us all to see. I love the F series but just too many problems so im trying to find the closest substitute. :(

Posted Aug 01, 2008 · 23:49 UTC#37
im surprised the jvc nav is getting so much hype, to my understanding JVC was along the same lines as Sony, Pyle, Jensen and Dual

 

I'm not sure where you got that, I've had a few JVC HU's and they were at least as well built as Pioneer. They were always a better bang for the buck new.

Posted Aug 04, 2008 · 18:15 UTC#38

I have the JVC KW-NX7000 installed in my Excursion with the HD Radio, Bluetooth (supports stereo streaming audio, the pioneer doesn't) , Back up camera and bypassed (just ground brake wire). I had the AVIC-F900 at first but returned it due to the problems. Let me say that JVC blows away the Pioneer, although it cost about $200.00 more once you add the Bluetooth. Boot time is less than half of the pioneer. JVC runs on Windows Automotive not Windows CE like the Pioneer. The only drawbacks I have found are very minor. Phonebook is much better than the stupid people icons that Pioneer uses but there is no way to quickly jump through phonebook, you have to scroll through all entries to find one in the middle. No system built in voice recognition but you can use phones voice dial with two onscreen button presses. Functionality depends on phone. It wasn't a big deal not to have voice recognition because I couldn't get that to work on the Pioneer anyway, even after the update. Bluetooth sound quality is great. Back up camera has no option tu view while driving, only when in reverse. There is no RDS text for Radio as someone else posted. It uses RDS TMC for traffic, however if you use the HD radio it will give text info for all HD stations that are sending info. If you use HD Radio tuner you have to use an antenna y splitter to run the antenna to both HD tuner and radio. I found this out the hard way . At first it wouldn't get any traffic info because antenna wasn't connected to the radio, only to the HD Radio module. Graphics for all screens is much nicer than Pioneer. JVC utilizes much more area of the screen (which is larger) to display info. When listening to CD,USB,SD Text will scroll so you can see all of it. You can add Sirius or XM Radio (which very soon it won't matter which service because the merger was approved as of 7/25/08). Can do iPOD Video ( I cannot comment on iPOD controls since I don't do iPOD, I just use SD card and my Phone does MP3 player duty with streaming audio.) Mapping is great, you can do North or heading up in both 3D and 2D maps. Very easy to tell what zoom level you are set at, Pioneer is impossible to tell what zoom level is. When no route is set there are no blank boxes on the screen like Pioneer, just a nice view of the map.

Some minor issues when searching POI's. Sometimes some locations didn't show up when searching with categories like chain store, but it did show up when searching just for the name under all stores.

 

I have to go so that's all for now. Any specific questions that people want answered just post and I will reply when I can.

Posted Aug 05, 2008 · 13:43 UTC#39

I also now have the JVC KW-NX7000 installed. Just had it done yesterday so I'm not very familiar with it all yet. I only have the Ipod working because apparently I had a faulty Sirius cable so I'm waiting to get a new one in the next few days.

 

First off, the JVC sticks out from the dash about 1/2 inch. Something my D3 didn't do at all. Makes sense though because of the removeable face (which was the main reason I went with this unit) and the tilt face option. Not too big a deal to me on this but if that really bugs you, you won't like the JVC.

 

From what I can tell though, the navigation is definitely nicer looking than the AVIC-D3. I've always preferred the full screen 3D view and this one is sweet. One thing I noticed this morning about the data in the navigation is that I was driving on a 55mph highway (the 55mph speed limit sign was being displayed on the JVC) and within 2 seconds of passing the "65 MPH BEGINS" sign, the JVC displayed the correct sign (pretty cool it was so accurate). Plus there are simply a TON of POI's on this thing.

 

Also, there is NO QWERTY keyboard option unfortunately. Although I will say that this thing is SUPER good at guessing what you're typing. As you type the letters in, it displays every option on the right side of the screen which keeps the typing to a minimum. The way JVC did the screen like this is why there can't be a QWERTY option (there are 6 rows of letters on the left side of the screen instead of the necessary 3 extra wide rows for QWERTY).

 

As for the Ipod, it's slower than the D3. Actually I didn't realize how quick the D3 was until I had something to compare it to. There's about a 5 second delay when trying to access your folders in the Ipod. Not bad I guess. But it's DEFINETLY easier to access your songs on the JVC (simply because it took forever to scroll down long lists on the D3). I had that problem rectified on the D3 however by having the "Genre" field on my Ipod simply be the letter that the band name starts with (a GENIUS idea from someone else on this site). I'm also able to watch videos on the JVC without having to access them through the Ipod (never was a big deal to me anyway on the D3 but some might like this about the JVC).

 

That's about all I have for now. I'll post some pics and more reviews as I get more used to the JVC (and get the Sirius installed).

 

any other questions then feel free to reply and I'll let you know if I can answer.

Posted Aug 05, 2008 · 14:54 UTC#40

Got any pics of the NX7000 installed? I'm curious how it looks sticking out 1/2". There are often ways to get a HU more flush, but it takes a little time and work, probably more effort than an installer would want to put into it.

 

I'm also curious to see real screenshots of the navigation. I have never seen the D3 navigation screens, but I'm sure it's similar to the D2 and Z-series. That speed limit indicator is awesome! Last month, I took a long road trip and many dozens of times I would ask my wife, "what's the speed limit? I haven't seen a sign." When she was driving, she did the same thing. We both agreed that a speed limit indicator on the navi unit would be really helpful. Also on the lane guidance, is it any better than the Pioneers? On the Pioneer, the lane guidance only seems to work on the large 6+ lane freeways in the larger cities. On my recent trip from Springfield MO to Columbus OH, I think it only worked in St Louis and Columbus, but nowhere in between.

 

No QWERTY keyboard is unfortunate, but that might not be a big deal. I do know switching from D1 (ABC keyboard) to Z2 (QWERTY), I was able to type a ton faster, so that might be something I'll miss. It does seem to be a completely different system so I guess I'd have to try it.

 

On the iPod, I had a JVC KD-AVX2 years ago that had a skip forward 10 and skip back 10. That made browsing the playlist much faster. Does the NX7000 have this feature, or at least a way you can jump to the middle of the list rather than having to page down?

Posted Aug 05, 2008 · 16:48 UTC#41

Im confused on the Ipod compatibility....you said it was relatively slow on the JVC?? Considering i have about 40gb of music on my ipod, the controls and menus need to be relatively fast when scrolling through the music. How has your experience been? Also, does it display album artwork? How large is the art? Also, any screenshots would be great!

Posted Aug 05, 2008 · 21:18 UTC#42

No pics as of yet. Haven't had much chance to even play with it I've been so busy. They're coming though.

 

Anyway, I'll try and address these questions in order real fast:

 

Gnat - I haven't really ben able to test out the lane guidance yet (I don't live in the big city either). So unfortunately I'm not able to help out there. From the pics, it looks better than Pioneer's but I can't confirm.

 

And as I said, no QWERTY. But I know how you feel because I can typwe faster on it as well and this system is excellent at predicting your typing.

 

Finally with the Ipod, I'm not sure about the "Skip 10" feature. What it does have though is a scroll on the right side of the screen. If you tap halfway down on the scroll bar then it brings you exactly halfway down your list (or wherever else you tap your finger on the bar, 3/4 way down, 3/4 down your list). Or if you simply drag your finger down the scroll bar then it also scrolls down your list quickly. And this feature is fast so no worries getting to the bottom of your song list.

 

Gaucho: When I meant that the Ipod connectivity was slow, it's just slower than the D3 was for bringing up your songs (or artists or any other list for that matter). You can actually scroll through the long lists pretty quickly. So far I like the searching a lot.

 

And it does display album art (although it's relatively small). I'd say it's about 1 1/2" bu 1 1/2" so it's not bad. That is a slow feature though because it takes about 10-15 seconds after a song starts to play to display the artwork. And you have the option of displaying the song name, artist and album - OR - the artwork (with the current time). You can't display both at the same time because there's not enough room on the screen. But it's easy to flip between the two because all you have to do is hit the "DISP" button to toggle between the two.

 

Hope this helps some. As I said, I've been swamped but will try to get so pics out soon.

Posted Aug 05, 2008 · 21:21 UTC#43

The scrollbar being functional sounds awesome!

 

My Z2 has a scrollbar too, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK!!! It's just for looks! Stupid Pioneer!

Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 01:25 UTC#44

Thanks for the info.....cant wait for some pictures to see what this thing looks like in action. Im going to have to pull the trigger soon and decide!

Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 14:22 UTC#45

Here are some pics so far. I know everyone's been wanting to see so I just took the pics with my Blackberry (not bad but not the greatest quality).

 

Hope this helps you guys out. let me know if you have any other questions.

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Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 14:32 UTC#46

Wow, I didn't realize it also had a big clock.

My cars are GM which don't have any other clock except the one in the radio. That big clock would be really nice.

Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 14:32 UTC#47

I tried posting the pics of the navigation but they didn't seem to show up. I'll post again now (sorry if there are any duplicates).

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Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 14:41 UTC#48

I can see the big clock being a nice touch for some (I already have a clock right under the unit so it's no big deal to me).

 

Another little neat feature I discovered was that you can program a "Start Up" message and a "Closing" message. The JVC uses the text to voice software to read what you input into the settings. I programmed it to say "Hello there Stud, how are you today?" when I got in the car with my wife. She gave me the usual look. I'm not keeping that message there but it's kind of a neat extra that they don't seem to mention in any of the literature.

 

By the way, regarding the Ipod list scroll, when you drag your finger down the scroll bar, it'll show the "Please Wait" message at the bottom of the screen (it doesn't just scroll down the list like a regular Ipod does). I tested it out to be sure and wanted you guys to know that it's not instant. However, it's still pretty fast. Just not much reason to actually drag your finger down the scroll bar. You get the same effect if you just tap the scroll bar approximately where your desired song would be on the list.

 

Hope that clears some things up.

Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 20:51 UTC#49

The best pic is the detachable face! Wish my unit was, I would sleep better at night even thou I have a Viper alarm.The protruding face isn't too bad,I could live with it.What type of amps are you running?

Posted Aug 06, 2008 · 21:05 UTC#50

Did you install it yourself or pay to have it installed?

 

I'm thinking it probably sticks out because that was the easiest way to install it. The top pic at Sonic Electronix (http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictures.php?id=12317) doesn't look like it sticks out much at all in the factory trim ring. I think it only sticks out at the bottom because it's tilted.

 

A lot of times those installation kits have different sets of holes or very elongated holes where you can install it as an ISO (not using the included frame) so I think you could get it a lot more flush provided there's enough depth in the dash. When I installed my Z2, it was pretty much up to me how much it sticks out. Other than the removable face, the design of the JVC is very similar.

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