🔍 /
42,334 Topics · 300,445 Posts
Search Archive

Got accepted for the online discussion

By jvcjbl · Aug 20, 2006in General💬 22 posts👁️ 4,417 views
Posted Aug 20, 2006 · 04:10 UTC#1
I just got my confirmation e-mail. I have been selected to take part in the online discussion. If there is any specific questions you want asked... let me know becasue I am in. Thank you
Posted Aug 20, 2006 · 11:30 UTC#2
I just got mine as well.
Posted Aug 20, 2006 · 13:41 UTC#3
I really hope this turns out to be informative and productive and not just a bunch of canned responses.

I'm sure you are going to ask a bunch of blue tooth questions but I would like to know why the Treo 700w does not work well with the pioneer blue tooth unit. It drops calls Sound from the phone does not come through the car speakers only through the handset I am not the only one with these problems.

My Treo 700w worked perfect with the factory Uconnect from Dodge so I have to believe it’s the quality of the pioneer receiver not the phone.

Thanks guys!
Posted Aug 20, 2006 · 18:23 UTC#4
I'd like to know why the Sirius support is pitiful compared to the XM support. I've had Sirius for years and my old Kenwood HU with the tiny 2-line dot matrix display gave more information than the 7" video screen on my new Z1.
Posted Aug 21, 2006 · 00:55 UTC#5
ufd108 said:
I'd like to know why the Sirius support is pitiful compared to the XM support. I've had Sirius for years and my old Kenwood HU with the tiny 2-line dot matrix display gave more information than the 7" video screen on my new Z1.


I feel the same way. Whoever has an invite please mention this. And I really wish they would show the artist and the name of the song at the same time. And when using the 10key with Sirius, the keypad should disappear when you push enter.

Also I wish there was an option that would turn the AV button in a 'back to AV main screen' button. Sometimes when I am making a changes to something in the AV, I will push the AV button instead of the back button and it changes my source, that's not a big deal, I could probably get use to that.
Posted Aug 21, 2006 · 04:30 UTC#6
I got the "accepted" email too.
Posted Aug 22, 2006 · 16:19 UTC#7
1. Bluetooth with Treo 650.

2. PIN to activate unit for theft deterrence

3. MP3 player.

I think it's great of you guys to act as our voice on these issues. Thank you!
Posted Aug 22, 2006 · 16:49 UTC#8
Also, maybe an option for a larger Hard Drive.

The HD should come preloaded with all the operating, map and gracenote partitions, as well as 30GB+ of space for my music. I think this would be great if they open up the ability to have MP3s copied to the HD.
Posted Aug 22, 2006 · 19:50 UTC#9
MitchellStang said:
Also, maybe an option for a larger Hard Drive.


Maybe a couple of different versions of the Z1 (10gb, 20gb, 30gb usable)

AND/OR

The ability for us who already have a 10gb system to "buy/trade out" an upgraded drive for more user storage
Posted Aug 22, 2006 · 19:58 UTC#10
Just finished "Day 1" of the online "discussion". So far my initial impressions of the so-called discussion is very poor. There is no discussion at this point. It's more like, Pioneer asks a question, you answer it. There is nothing yet that specifies likes or dislikes about the Z1. Hopefully the next couple of days things will get better.
Posted Aug 23, 2006 · 01:30 UTC#11
bongus said:
Just finished "Day 1" of the online "discussion". So far my initial impressions of the so-called discussion is very poor. There is no discussion at this point. It's more like, Pioneer asks a question, you answer it. There is nothing yet that specifies likes or dislikes about the Z1. Hopefully the next couple of days things will get better.


DITTO!!!
Posted Aug 23, 2006 · 01:40 UTC#12
Yah, it's basically a fancy questionare. Nothing "conversational" at all. Hoping it gets better or my answers will start to be more venting that answering questions.
Posted Aug 23, 2006 · 16:28 UTC#13
i'm accepted too, but i guess it's a 3rd party research group, I guess pioneer is afraid if they conduct the research themself people will start venting and if they don't resolve it, it'll seem like they don't care.

and worst of all because it's a 3rd party... they will just report how user responded to questions of "their interest" our how they can solve our problem.
Posted Aug 23, 2006 · 20:02 UTC#14
Just saw this on the Pioneer discussion site:

moderator wrote said:


What would you like to see improved in the Z1's navigationi and Bluetooth functions? Please be as specific as you can?


user005 said:

Oh boy, you just opened a can of worms...where do I begin.

First, disabling functionality of the Navigation while in motion is downright wrong. I feel like a vicitm of a "bait and switch" scheme. I understand that you (Pioneer) are concerned with the liablity of allowing access to all the functions of the navigation but when you have an iPod interface that moves at a snails pace while scrolling through a list of 6000 songs then I think your priorities are wrong. The least you can do is stay consistent. I think scrolling the slow iPod interface is just as dangerous as selecting a new destination while in motion yet, there is no warning about that when you use the iPod...go figure.

Second, Bluetooth. It does not make sense to have phone use when the people you are conversing with keep hearing themselves on the other line. The mic design is second rate if not third rate. It may work well for voice commands but as a phone mic it belongs on the dollar store clearance shelf. I can't believe I dupped into buying a $2000 USD unit with a 5¢ mic, if that much. I have friends with the Parrot brand bluetooth device and I hear no echoing whatsoever...hello Pioneer, the technology is there it's called noise cancelling...geeeezzz.

It really sounds like you are more interested in avoiding lawsuits than making a product that is designed to do what it is supposed to do...navigate anytime and anywhere! I don't think Ferrari puts in a 12 cylinder engine in their cars only to limit the speed to 65mph because they're afraid that the owner might drive over the speed limit...come on Pioneer. We're all adults here and if some unattentive driver gets into an accident because he wants to find the nearest McDonalds (look for the Golden Arches dummy) using the Z1 while in motion then it is completely his fault. When I start seeing exposes of Car Navigation induced accidents on 60 Minutes and Dateline then I think you guys should start sweating...in the meantime let us use our $2000 USD navigation equipment. Was I specific enough for you Moderator?


moderator wrote said:

To All:
User 5 has done exactly what we want, which is to let us know specifically what he likes, or in this case, does not like. Thank you 5 and keep in coming. I assure you the right people are reading these comments.


It appears that Pioneer is "concerned" about our opinions. Let's see how things work out.
Posted Aug 24, 2006 · 04:22 UTC#15
Big problems are blue tooth and transferring phone book.
Slow Ipod navigation
Sirius interface poor. Would like to record like tivo sat radio.
Mic is very bad and echo on bluetooth phone call unacceptable.
voice commands very rarely work
Posted Aug 24, 2006 · 11:52 UTC#16
I think you are on the right track. I certainly can see disabling the DVD function while moving, but the phone functions and the nav fucntions are what I bought the unit for. There are laws in most states not alowoing DVD to be viewed from the drivers seat. there are no laws on using navigation and as far as the phone goes, here in New York you need to use the hands free. If I used the Z1 without a bypass, Pioneer would be forcing me to break the law by picing up my cell phone to access the phonebook rather than useing the one on the bypassed Z1..... If the Z1 only bypassed the DVD I would not have bothered getting a bypass unit....but they forced me into it by locking so many other functions.

Greg
Posted Aug 24, 2006 · 14:25 UTC#17
There are some states where even having navi in view of the driver is illegal, but that's beside the point. It would be nice to know why so much stuff is locked out with the z1.
Posted Aug 28, 2006 · 18:27 UTC#18
Is the Pioneer discussion site part of the survey? Or is this something all of us can access? I would love to give them my thoughts on this thing. I love the unit, but it needs work!
Posted Aug 28, 2006 · 21:21 UTC#19
BearGator56 said:
Is the Pionner discussion site part of the survey? Or is this something all of us can access? I would love to give them my thoughts on this thing. I love the unit, but it needs work!


No it was an "invitation only" forum which they asked questions and we answered them and they might ask for more info. It wasn't open to the public. In fact now, the site is closed and even those of us who were invited can't even see what we put in. Don't worry, there was a lot of complaining and I think all the parts that needed work were at least touched on if not screamed at them :)
Posted Aug 30, 2006 · 10:39 UTC#20
It's really good to know that Pioneer is getting feedback from the public, I just hope they actually do something with it. Most of the Z1's problems could be fixed by software changes. They could even improve the performance of the iPod interface by using some intelligent caching and a background tranfer of the iPod database.

In addition the video interface used for the TV tuner module should be used to make a new interface for the video iPods. They could charge $200 for the adapter and I'd pay it just to have the ability play videos off of my iPod.
Posted Aug 30, 2006 · 20:05 UTC#22
Hyperite said:
I wish I'd known about this... but hopefully someone brought up all the issues in the "pet peeves" thread I started months ago.


Sorry, but it was by invitation only. People who registered their Z1's with pioneer and an email address were emailed directly and asked to participate. Most of us there were from this forum. Trust me. Just about every pet peeve on that list was at least mentioned.

There were some who were "The z1 is great, I love you, please let me touch your greatness" but for the most part it ended up with some people expounding on the Z1's short comings.

Cirbirus said:
They could even improve the performance of the iPod interface by using some intelligent caching and a background tranfer of the iPod database.


That is one of the smartest ideas I have heard about the ipod interface. I'm pissed that I didn't think of that. You are right, it seems like what is on the screen is requested at the time the screen is populated. Then when you press the page down button, it then goes out and requests the next page of titles from the ipod. If it spent the time in the background getting all the titles for where ever you were as soon as it displayed the first 6 or whatever, it would be busy working on the rest.... that's a great idea. I wonder if they are paying attention to these forums. If they are or not, it's a really smart idea.